Bug#612250: closed by Niels Thykier (Re: Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade)

2014-11-26 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 11/26/2014 01:42:31 AM, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
==quoted message from Niels Thykier ,

> Closing, since there has been no indication of whether it is relevant
> for Wheezy.

Thanks.

Karl 
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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2013-03-30 Thread David Prévot
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Hi,

On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 01:09:05PM -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> On 02/07/2011 12:33:50 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 12:29:19 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> > > 
> > > Note that it appears I did not follow the release notes
> > > and reboot after installing the new kernel and udev.  :-(
> > > 
> > Do you remember around what time the keyboard issue happened?
> 
> No.  I strongly suspect it's what you see in the message log at 
> 22:07:34 on Feb 4.  That would be about right.

Is this issue still relevant for Wheezy? I suspect it isn’t and advise
the RN wizard to close it (I may do so myself next time I come across
this bug report unless more information is provided).

Regards

David




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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 02/07/2011 12:33:50 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 12:29:19 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> > On 02/07/2011 11:48:49 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 11:42:33 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> > > 
> > > > A log of the upgrade being the "script" output and the kernel
> log
> > > > being /var/log/messages?
> > > > 
> > > That would probably work.
> > 
> > Attached.  (After sanitizing.)
> > 
> > Note that it appears I did not follow the release notes
> > and reboot after installing the new kernel and udev.  :-(
> > 
> > (At least it's not in the script output, although I was
> > resolving config file diffs in another vt and could have
> > rebooted from there.  But I don't seem to see a reboot in
> > the messages log either, at least not before the keyboard
> > plug event.  Feel free to double check me on this.)
> > 
> Do you remember around what time the keyboard issue happened?

No.  I strongly suspect it's what you see in the message log at 
22:07:34 on Feb 4.  That would be about right.

Karl 
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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 08:48:39AM +0100, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
> On 7 February 2011 07:27, Karl O. Pinc  wrote:
> > During upgrade the text console was lost and replaced with a gdm login
> > screen.  The second time this occurred neither the keyboard or mouse
> > would respond.  Unplugging and replugging each of these USB devices
> > resovled the problem.
> 
> Thank you for your patch we will consider it for the Release Notes. As
> for this issue, since the move from text console to gdm is quite
> common (and confuses users) we are consider asking the users, when
> upgrading, to stop the gdm service so that there is no switch back and
> forth. We still have to consider the best approach to this issue,
> however.

On my laptop, there is internet connection while a user is logged 
and using gnome.  When the user logs out, the connection is broken.

Would stopping gdm have the effect of logging out the user?  If so, gdm 
should be stopped only after all the packages have been downloaded, and 
before they start to be installed.  Is there a good moment for the user 
to detect this moment?

-- hendrik
k



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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 12:29:19 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:

> On 02/07/2011 11:48:49 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 11:42:33 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> > 
> > > A log of the upgrade being the "script" output and the kernel log
> > > being /var/log/messages?
> > > 
> > That would probably work.
> 
> Attached.  (After sanitizing.)
> 
> Note that it appears I did not follow the release notes
> and reboot after installing the new kernel and udev.  :-(
> 
> (At least it's not in the script output, although I was
> resolving config file diffs in another vt and could have
> rebooted from there.  But I don't seem to see a reboot in
> the messages log either, at least not before the keyboard
> plug event.  Feel free to double check me on this.)
> 
Do you remember around what time the keyboard issue happened?

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 11:42:33 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:

> A log of the upgrade being the "script" output and the kernel log
> being /var/log/messages?
> 
That would probably work.

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 02/07/2011 11:30:53 AM, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 00:27:06 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:
> 
> > Package: release-notes
> > Severity: normal
> > Tags: patch
> > 

> > During upgrade the text console was lost and replaced with a gdm
> login
> > screen.  The second time this occurred neither the keyboard or 
> mouse
> > would respond.  Unplugging and replugging each of these USB devices
> > resovled the problem.
> > 

> I'm not sure I want to apply something like this without knowing
> why/how
> it happened.  Which means please send a log from your upgrade, along
> with corresponding kernel log.

A log of the upgrade being the "script" output and the kernel log
being /var/log/messages?



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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Feb  7, 2011 at 00:27:06 -0600, Karl O. Pinc wrote:

> Package: release-notes
> Severity: normal
> Tags: patch
> 
> Hello,
> 
> During upgrade the text console was lost and replaced with a gdm login
> screen.  The second time this occurred neither the keyboard or mouse
> would respond.  Unplugging and replugging each of these USB devices
> resovled the problem.
> 
> The attached patch tells the user how to recover.  USB is repeated
> twice because, technically, PS2 keyboards should not be hotplugged
> and, although I have not tested this, I do not believe that doing
> so would change anything.
> 
I'm not sure I want to apply something like this without knowing why/how
it happened.  Which means please send a log from your upgrade, along
with corresponding kernel log.

Cheers,
Julien


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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On 02/07/2011 01:48:39 AM, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote:
> On 7 February 2011 07:27, Karl O. Pinc  wrote:
> > During upgrade the text console was lost and replaced with a gdm
> login
> > screen.  The second time this occurred neither the keyboard or 
> mouse
> > would respond.  Unplugging and replugging each of these USB devices
> > resovled the problem.
> 
> Thank you for your patch we will consider it for the Release Notes. 
> As
> for this issue, since the move from text console to gdm is quite
> common (and confuses users) we are consider asking the users, when
> upgrading, to stop the gdm service so that there is no switch back 
> and
> forth. 

This makes sense.  (If you do recommend gdm be stopped I suggest, FWIW,
that you move all the stuff about using Alt-Fn to switch to the 
console, along with my patch, to section 5.  This has no doubt occurred
to you. :)

FYI, you may wish to check for consistently as to which console is used
for the upgrade.  While grepping the release notes when making this
patch I noticed, but did not look into, a reference to using VT2 but
other parts of the document talk about pressing Alt-F1.

grep VT2 -r /tmp/release-notes/release-notes/en/


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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-07 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 7 February 2011 07:27, Karl O. Pinc  wrote:
> During upgrade the text console was lost and replaced with a gdm login
> screen.  The second time this occurred neither the keyboard or mouse
> would respond.  Unplugging and replugging each of these USB devices
> resovled the problem.

Thank you for your patch we will consider it for the Release Notes. As
for this issue, since the move from text console to gdm is quite
common (and confuses users) we are consider asking the users, when
upgrading, to stop the gdm service so that there is no switch back and
forth. We still have to consider the best approach to this issue,
however.

Best regards

Javier



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Bug#612250: release-notes: Loss of keyboard and mouse may occur during upgrade

2011-02-06 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Package: release-notes
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

Hello,

During upgrade the text console was lost and replaced with a gdm login
screen.  The second time this occurred neither the keyboard or mouse
would respond.  Unplugging and replugging each of these USB devices
resovled the problem.

The attached patch tells the user how to recover.  USB is repeated
twice because, technically, PS2 keyboards should not be hotplugged
and, although I have not tested this, I do not believe that doing
so would change anything.

FYI, FWIW:

Video drivers:
Lenny: nv
Squeeze: nouveau

Video card is:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV44 [Quadro NVS 
285] [10de:0165] (rev a1)


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
diff -ruN release-notes/en/upgrading.dbk release-notes-new/en/upgrading.dbk
--- release-notes/en/upgrading.dbk	2011-02-06 23:52:05.0 -0600
+++ release-notes-new/en/upgrading.dbk	2011-02-07 00:05:15.0 -0600
@@ -1158,6 +1158,11 @@
 AltRight
 Arrow to switch between the different text-mode terminals.
 
+Should your USB keyboard (or mouse) fail to respond when
+attempting to switch away from the graphical startup screen, unplug
+the USB keyboard and re-insert the plug.  The keyboard should then be
+detected and return to operation.
+