Bug#622124: lintian: overzealous spell checking is actually wrong in one casse

2011-04-10 Thread Nicholas Bamber
Package: lintian
Version: 2.5.0~rc2
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 12.1

The new lintian is scoring about 50% for me at the moment.
It is quite correct in asking for 'allows to' to be changed to
'allows one to'. At least I can think of no counter examples.

However it goes too far in asking for 'helps to' -> 'helps one to'.
In all the examples I have seen or can think of, both are grammatically
correct but the one without is more appropriate. Adding 'one' makes it 
sounds long-winded and pompous.

These are the only examples I have seen so I do not know what
the larger pattern is.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages lintian depends on:
ii  binutils   2.20.1-16 The GNU assembler, linker and bina
ii  diffstat   1.54-1produces graph of changes introduc
ii  dpkg-dev   1.16.0.1  Debian package development tools
ii  file   5.04-5Determines file type using "magic"
ii  gettext0.18.1.1-3GNU Internationalization utilities
ii  intltool-debian0.35.0+20060710.1 Help i18n of RFC822 compliant conf
ii  libapt-pkg-perl0.1.24+b1 Perl interface to libapt-pkg
ii  libclass-accessor-perl 0.34-1Perl module that automatically gen
ii  libemail-valid-perl0.184-1   Perl module for checking the valid
ii  libipc-run-perl0.89-1Perl module for running processes
ii  libparse-debianchangel 1.2.0-1   parse Debian changelogs and output
ii  libtimedate-perl   1.2000-1  collection of modules to manipulat
ii  liburi-perl1.58-1module to manipulate and access UR
ii  locales2.11.2-11 Embedded GNU C Library: National L
ii  locales-all [locales]  2.11.2-11 Embedded GNU C Library: Precompile
ii  man-db 2.5.7-8   on-line manual pager
ii  perl [libdigest-sha-pe 5.10.1-19 Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 

lintian recommends no packages.

Versions of packages lintian suggests:
pn  binutils-multiarch (no description available)
ii  libtext-template-perl 1.45-2 Text::Template perl module
ii  man-db2.5.7-8on-line manual pager

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Bug#622124: lintian: overzealous spell checking is actually wrong in one casse

2011-04-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Nicholas Bamber  writes:

> However it goes too far in asking for 'helps to' -> 'helps one to'.  In
> all the examples I have seen or can think of, both are grammatically
> correct but the one without is more appropriate. Adding 'one' makes it
> sounds long-winded and pompous.

Yeah, I think I agree.  I can think of various places where I'd say that,
as a native speaker, and would find that rephrasing unnatural.

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Bug#622124: lintian: overzealous spell checking is actually wrong in one casse

2011-04-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
severity 622124 normal
thanks

On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 13:33 +0100, Nicholas Bamber wrote:
> Package: lintian
> Version: 2.5.0~rc2
> Severity: serious
> Justification: Policy 12.1

I'm unsure why this issue is release-critical, nor how the general
policy discussion on man pages is a justification for making it so?

Regards,

Adam




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