Bug#633500: closed by Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (Re: Bug#633500: gnome: Dependency on network-manager can break DNS resolution)

2011-07-11 Thread Yves Rutschle 
 lot's of fud

Well, that's not really my habit.

I'll go over what happened:

- I installed the meta package gnome
- It installed network-manager
- network-manager left me with an empty /etc/resolv.conf
  (except for a helpful message that the file had been
  generated by network-manager -- at least you know where
  the problem comes from)
- this obviously breaks other packages that access the
  network, e.g. firefox.

Are you saying that I hallucinated /etc/resolv.conf being
emptied? 

Or do you disagree that this is a problem with gnome and I
should take it to the network-manager people?

Cheers,
Y.



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Bug#633500: closed by Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org (Re: Bug#633500: gnome: Dependency on network-manager can break DNS resolution)

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Biebl 
Am 11.07.2011 08:24, schrieb Yves Rutschle:
 lot's of fud
 
 Well, that's not really my habit.
 
 I'll go over what happened:
 
 - I installed the meta package gnome
 - It installed network-manager
 - network-manager left me with an empty /etc/resolv.conf
   (except for a helpful message that the file had been
   generated by network-manager -- at least you know where
   the problem comes from)
 - this obviously breaks other packages that access the
   network, e.g. firefox.
 
 Are you saying that I hallucinated /etc/resolv.conf being
 emptied? 
 
 Or do you disagree that this is a problem with gnome and I
 should take it to the network-manager people?

Why you filed this against gnome is beyond me, especially with that severity.

Anyway, your problem is most likely
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=624159
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=546893

I.e. you have multiple interfaces, where the primary interface is not managed by
NM but ifupdown.

If you have something useful to contribute, you can follow up on these two bug
reports.

Michael

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Bug#633500: gnome: Dependency on network-manager can break DNS resolution

2011-07-10 Thread Yves Rutschle 
Package: gnome
Version: 1:2.30+7
Severity: critical
Justification: breaks unrelated software


network-manager is a bit of a catastrophe when installed on
servers: it just happily erases /etc/resolv.conf and leaves
your system with no DNS at all.

Meta-package 'gnome' pulling network-manager is a Bad Idea,
as it might get installed on many systems that are not
mobile, and for which it will break the network settings.

(frankly, the list of outstanding bugs for network-manager
should be enough to not install it, or at least ask the user
for confirmation.)


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.2
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (990, 'stable'), (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-vserver-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR@euro (charmap=ISO-8859-15)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages gnome depends on:
ii  avahi-daemon   0.6.27-2+squeeze1 Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD daemon
pn  epiphany-extensionsnone(no description available)
pn  evolution-exchange | e none(no description available)
ii  evolution-plugins  2.30.3-5  standard plugins for Evolution
ii  evolution-webcal   2.28.1-1  webcal: URL handler for GNOME and 
ii  gdm-themes 0.6.2 Themes for the GNOME Display Manag
pn  gedit-plugins  none(no description available)
pn  gnome-codec-installnone(no description available)
pn  gnome-desktop-environm none(no description available)
pn  gnome-gamesnone(no description available)
pn  gnome-themes-extrasnone(no description available)
pn  gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg   none(no description available)
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins- 0.10.15-1 GStreamer plugins from the ugly 
ii  libpam-gnome-keyring   2.30.3-5  PAM module to unlock the GNOME key
ii  rhythmbox-plugins  0.12.8-3  plugins for rhythmbox music player
ii  software-center2.0.7debian7  Utility for browsing, installing, 
ii  synaptic   0.70~pre1+b1  Graphical package manager
pn  system-config-printer  none(no description available)
pn  tomboy | gnote none(no description available)
pn  totem-mozilla  none(no description available)
pn  transmission-gtk   none(no description available)

Versions of packages gnome recommends:
pn  gdebi  none(no description available)
pn  gnome-games-extra-data none(no description available)
pn  gnome-office   none(no description available)
pn  liferea | evolution-rss |  none(no description available)
ii  menu-xdg   0.5   freedesktop.org menu compliant win
pn  mozilla-plugin-gnash   none(no description available)
pn  network-manager-gnome  none(no description available)
pn  shotwell   none(no description available)
ii  update-notifier0.99.3debian8 Daemon which notifies about packag

Versions of packages gnome suggests:
pn  gnome-dbg none (no description available)
pn  openoffice.org-evolution  none (no description available)
pn  openoffice.org-gnome  none (no description available)



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