Bug#635834: Revisiting inclusion of AcroTeX/eForms in TeX Live in light of advancements in libre PDF readers

2024-06-03 Thread Karl Berry
Hi John - are there any other packages that support such PDF
functionality?

AcroTeX et al. are problematic not just because of the reader end, but
also because of the writer end, some of which required Adobe software.
The author (Donald Story) was (understandably) not interested in teasing
out the proprietary-required stuff from the non-proprietary-required
stuff. He eventually told me "just don't put my packages in TeX Live".
He passed away in 2022, and I haven't seen any notes about further
development from other people.

His work, all in all, is quite a complex set of packages and figuring
out what can be done isn't something I'm ever going to be able to take on.

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Bug#635834: Revisiting inclusion of AcroTeX/eForms in TeX Live in light of advancements in libre PDF readers

2024-06-03 Thread John Scott
Hello,

I must disclaim that I've not used these packages yet and would welcome being 
informed if I'm mistaken.

It looks like both TeX Live and Debian have had reservations about shipping 
AcroTeX and eForms because at the time it was considered, the only PDF readers 
that appeared to support the features were proprietary ones. However, it seems 
that free PDF viewers have made great strides in the past several years 
especially in supporting these advanced features, so I think their inclusion in 
the standard distribution should be reconsidered.

Free PDF viewers, especially Okular with the Poppler backend, have gained 
support for many of the features that have been standardized, including non-XFA 
forms, digital/cryptographic signature support, and JavaScript, all things that 
eForms appears to assist in making. There are probably still some things that 
AcroTeX and eForms can do that only proprietary readers support, but unless 
software patents muddy the waters, it seems like this can improve in client 
software at any time.

Frankly I'm itching to use this functionality in my documents, but as a strong 
advocate for free software as well, I'd like to be informed if there are any 
freedom or distribution issues remaining.

Thanks,
John

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