Bug#639748: chromium: please add a side pane for bookmarks (like the one in Galeon)
On Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:15:31 -0500 Jonathan Nieder wrote: [...] Hi Francesco! Hi Jonathan! Francesco Poli (wintermute) wrote: While trying out Chromium, I noticed that the way to access bookmarks is terribly slow and uncomfortable: the bookmarks bar shown in the new tab page (or always shown, if you check Always show the bookmarks bar in the preferences) only makes the first few bookmark folders visible; [...] All this is really slow and unpractical, especially if you have a good number of bookmarks. If you hit Ctrl+Shift+O, I tried to hit [Ctrl+Shift+O], but nothing happened... then you get access to a bookmark manager with search and everything. I saw the bookmark manager (even though it does not seem to show up, when I hit [Ctrl+Shift+O]), but it's no real substitute for the bookmark side pane. It takes one whole tab, rather than a side portion of the window, and it's not visible when you visit a web site on one of the active tabs. But practically speaking, what I would encourage is to put the permanent bookmarks that need to be nicely organized on a webpage (either local or public) and use the Bookmark this page feature just as a way to save a few interesting pages that you were reading recently or that you frequently need to open in a new tab. This would be a huge step back with respect to all the other modern web browsers I've seen around. I tried to do that back in the 1990s, when I was still a sad Windows user (!) and browsed the web with Internet Explorer (!): well, it doesn't scale! As soon as you collect a good number of bookmarks, which you have to update and expand, the manual modification of the HTML code is unpractical and time consuming. One could set up some more automated system, sure. But, hey, this should be the job of the web browser! And it is, for every modern web browser that I know of. Except for Chromium, which seems to still be at the stone age of bookmark access... :-( In other words, these aren't necessarily the kind of bookmark you are used to. :) OK, then Chromium basically lacks the modern (and useful) kind of bookmarks. I think that this is a very embarrassing gap for a modern web browser. [...] What I would really love seeing implemented in Chromium is a side pane Chromium doesn't currently have any side panes. Even the developer tools open in a separate window, so I guess that would be more consistent with what you are looking for. Please feel free to report this at http://crbug.com/ and let us know the bug number if you want to pursue it. It seems that I am required to create a Google account to report bugs at http://crbug.com/ : I am not going to create one, as I am too concerned for its privacy issues. Normally I would ask you to forward my bug upstream, but here the situation is different. I've done a quick web search and it seems that there are lots of users that lack this feature and most of them won't switch to Google Chrome or Chromium until this feature is implemented. http://www.thechromesource.com/the-people-want-a-chrome-bookmarks-side-bar/ http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4c5bdb5b16092e68hl=en http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=20785 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=45365 You can probably consider either of the last two URLs as a good approximation of a forwarded version of my bug report. This feature request has already been re-iterated many many times to the upstream developers, but, surprisingly, they seem to refuse to implement it. If this is how Chromium upstream developers deal with very popular feature requests, I do not dare imagine how they deal with minority ones. Maybe I must search for another (primary) web browser to switch to... :-( -- http://www.inventati.org/frx/frx-gpg-key-transition-2010.txt New GnuPG key, see the transition document! . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == CA01 1147 9CD2 EFDF FB82 3925 3E1C 27E1 1F69 BFFE pgpuolADXUyD6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Bug#639748: chromium: please add a side pane for bookmarks (like the one in Galeon)
forwarded 639748 http://crbug.com/20785 tags 639748 + wontfix quit Francesco Poli wrote: If this is how Chromium upstream developers deal with very popular feature requests, I do not dare imagine how they deal with minority ones. Yes, upstream responds much better to well explained patches than to feature requests. Thanks for the pointers. Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#639748: chromium: please add a side pane for bookmarks (like the one in Galeon)
Package: chromium Version: 13.0.782.107~r94237-1 Severity: wishlist Hi! While trying out Chromium, I noticed that the way to access bookmarks is terribly slow and uncomfortable: the bookmarks bar shown in the new tab page (or always shown, if you check Always show the bookmarks bar in the preferences) only makes the first few bookmark folders visible; everything else is hidden in a drop down menu that doesn't appear until I click on the ยป symbol; then I have to scroll down and find the bookmarks I am interested in, one at a time... The Other Bookmarks section suffers from similar issues. All this is really slow and unpractical, especially if you have a good number of bookmarks. Another problem with the bookmarks bar is that it eats up vertical space (especially if it is always shown). With nowadays wide-screen LCD panels, vertical space is not too abundant, while horizontal space is more than enough to accomodate for a side pane. What I would really love seeing implemented in Chromium is a side pane similar to the one implemented in Galeon. Start Galeon and hit [F9] to see it in action: it shows all your bookmarks in a nice expandable tree-like representation, where you can easily scroll, expand some folders and choose the bookmarks you are interested in, open them up in new tabs, or even edit them, add new ones, delete existing ones, and so forth... It even includes a Find: box, where you can easily search your large bookmark collection. And the side pane is always there, ready to be used to access bookmarks, until you hit [F9] again, of course. Galeon also remembers to automatically show the side pane at startup, if it was visible the last time Galeon was closed. I really lack this feature in Chromium. May this be implemented, please? -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (800, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 3.0.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Versions of packages chromium depends on: ii chromium-inspector 13.0.782.107~r94237-1 page inspector for the chromium br ii libasound2 1.0.24.1-2shared library for ALSA applicatio ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.5-6 high-quality block-sorting file co ii libc6 2.13-16 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libcairo2 1.10.2-6.1The Cairo 2D vector graphics libra ii libcups2 1.4.8-2 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - ii libdbus-1-31.4.14-1 simple interprocess messaging syst ii libdbus-glib-1-2 0.94-4simple interprocess messaging syst ii libevent-1.4-2 1.4.13-stable-1 An asynchronous event notification ii libexpat1 2.0.1-7 XML parsing C library - runtime li ii libflac8 1.2.1-5 Free Lossless Audio Codec - runtim ii libfontconfig1 2.8.0-3 generic font configuration library ii libfreetype6 2.4.6-1 FreeType 2 font engine, shared lib ii libgcc11:4.6.1-4 GCC support library ii libgconf2-42.32.4-1 GNOME configuration database syste ii libgcrypt111.4.6-9 LGPL Crypto library - runtime libr ii libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 2.23.5-3 GDK Pixbuf library ii libglib2.0-0 2.28.6-1 The GLib library of C routines ii libgtk2.0-02.24.4-3 The GTK+ graphical user interface ii libjpeg62 6b1-2 Independent JPEG Group's JPEG runt ii libnspr4-0d4.8.9-1 NetScape Portable Runtime Library ii libnss3-1d 3.12.11-1 Network Security Service libraries ii libpango1.0-0 1.28.4-1 Layout and rendering of internatio ii libpng12-0 1.2.46-3 PNG library - runtime ii libspeex1 1.2~rc1-1 The Speex codec runtime library ii libstdc++6 4.6.1-4 GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii libvpx00.9.7.p1-1VP8 video codec (shared library) ii libwebp0 0.1.2-1 Lossy compression of digital photo ii libx11-6 2:1.4.4-1 X11 client-side library ii libxext6 2:1.3.0-3 X11 miscellaneous extension librar ii libxml22.7.8.dfsg-4 GNOME XML library ii libxrender11:0.9.6-2 X Rendering Extension client libra ii libxslt1.1 1.1.26-8 XSLT 1.0 processing library - runt ii libxss11:1.2.1-2 X11 Screen Saver extension library ii xdg-utils 1.1.0~rc1-2 desktop integration utilities from ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime chromium recommends no packages. Versions of packages chromium suggests: pn chromium-l10n
Bug#639748: chromium: please add a side pane for bookmarks (like the one in Galeon)
tags 639748 + upstream quit Hi Francesco! Francesco Poli (wintermute) wrote: While trying out Chromium, I noticed that the way to access bookmarks is terribly slow and uncomfortable: the bookmarks bar shown in the new tab page (or always shown, if you check Always show the bookmarks bar in the preferences) only makes the first few bookmark folders visible; [...] All this is really slow and unpractical, especially if you have a good number of bookmarks. If you hit Ctrl+Shift+O, then you get access to a bookmark manager with search and everything. But practically speaking, what I would encourage is to put the permanent bookmarks that need to be nicely organized on a webpage (either local or public) and use the Bookmark this page feature just as a way to save a few interesting pages that you were reading recently or that you frequently need to open in a new tab. In other words, these aren't necessarily the kind of bookmark you are used to. :) [...] What I would really love seeing implemented in Chromium is a side pane Chromium doesn't currently have any side panes. Even the developer tools open in a separate window, so I guess that would be more consistent with what you are looking for. Please feel free to report this at http://crbug.com/ and let us know the bug number if you want to pursue it. Hope that helps, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
