Bug#648049: [pkg-cli-apps-team] Bug#648049: gnome: package priority between tomboy and gnote

2011-11-09 Thread Iain Lane
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 06:53:53PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:
 Am 08.11.2011 18:35, schrieb Michael Biebl:
 Am 08.11.2011 17:14, schrieb Osamu Aoki:
 Package: gnome
 Version: 1:3.0+3
 Severity: wishlist
 
 Executive summary:
 
 Please change dependency for tomboy etc. to:
 
 gnote | tomboy (= 1.6) | zim
 
 
 
 I think this is worth considering, even more importantly because gnote
 0.8 has a GTK 3 port. That said, gnote will pull the gtkmm packages, and
 I haven't checked yet, if other packages are already pulling that in.
 If not, we have to weigh that against the mono-* runtime size to be fair.
 
 What would also help to decide this, is some kind of feature matrix for
 tomboy and gnote and knowing if there is a smooth upgrade path from
 tomboy to gnote.
 
 Btw, one reason, why tomboy is part of gnome, is that in GNOME 3.0 it's
 a featured app [2], in 3.2 this is no longer the case.
 
 Cheers,
 Michael
 
 [1] http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.0/3.0.0/sources/
 
 
 Bringing the gnote and tomboy maintainers into the loop. Maybe they
 have comments on the above.

I understand Tomboy was removed from whatever GNOME recommended thingy
because it has not seen a GTK3 port yet, due to the lack of a
gtk-sharp3. This is in progress and should exist quite soon (when some
bugs in the generator are zapped) so hopefully it will get back there.

The most important feature that Tomboy has over Gnote is online note
syncing that a lot of people use.

I don't see tomboy in gnome-core, only gnome.

And as for speed and lightness, I have never found it lacking.

I don't know how space constrained you are, but the size issues could be
real. You could consider including Banshee so that it isn't only Tomboy
bringing the runtime in. ;-)

Cheers,

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Bug#648049: [pkg-cli-apps-team] Bug#648049: gnome: package priority between tomboy and gnote

2011-11-09 Thread Vincent Cheng
Hi,

 I think this is worth considering, even more importantly because gnote
 0.8 has a GTK 3 port. That said, gnote will pull the gtkmm packages, and
 I haven't checked yet, if other packages are already pulling that in.
 If not, we have to weigh that against the mono-* runtime size to be fair.

gnome-system-monitor also pulls in the gtkmm packages, so that
shouldn't be an issue.

 The most important feature that Tomboy has over Gnote is online note
 syncing that a lot of people use.

That's the one thing that gnote doesn't support. Note syncing is a
feature that I can live without, so I'm perfectly happy with gnote,
but unfortunately it seems that not having the ability to sync notes
online is a deal-breaker for a lot of users. As far as I know, online
note syncing is on upstream's to-do list, but there's no timeframe for
its inclusion in gnote. :(

Vincent



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