Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-11 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Hey,

 I read some basic information from homepage and Wikipedia.
 Looks like 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 versions have been released in last years.
 Shouldn't Debian package been updated to 2.x as well?
 If staying on 1.8, 1.8.6 and later clients can interoperate 2.x servers.
 But Debian package is still at 1.8.5 with some bugs that are fixed in later
 versions.
That's correct and there is also work on 2.2 packages for debian -
however these packages are far away from beeing stable. 1.8.5 can be
considered stable and can be used without huge problems on big clusters.

 Maybe you should ask wider opinion what to do with Lustre in Debian.
I think I don't have to do this - as written above there is work in 
progress to get 2.2 in (see our git). - However this software is not stable
enough to be considered for wheezy.

Greetings
Patrick



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Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:26:17PM +0200, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
 this is not that bad than it sounds as lustre is a very very specific
 kind of software, which is rarely/not at all used by normal users. 
 

Hi,

I don't think this is RC from a FTBFS point of view, but I'm not
entirely sure about if it would be policy compliant. The simplest way of
fixing this would be to move it from main to contrib - would you be
willing to do this as maintainer?

Thanks,
Neil
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Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-10 Thread Patrick Winnertz
severity 651795 wishlist
thanks

Hey,

as shown on the support matrix from whamcloud (or of lustre.org) linux
3.1 is not supported by upstream, thus the compilation of lustre-source
against the kernel source 3.1 is really allowed to fail here. 

The correct title for this bug report should be: Support for linux 3.1
is missing. not that it fails to compile...

In order to use lustre you are supposed to grab your kernel source
either from SLES or from kernel.org and compile manually. 

Greetings
Winnie



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Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-10 Thread Touko Korpela
severity 651795 grave
thanks

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 01:25:16PM +0200, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
 severity 651795 wishlist
 thanks
 
 Hey,
 
 as shown on the support matrix from whamcloud (or of lustre.org) linux
 3.1 is not supported by upstream, thus the compilation of lustre-source
 against the kernel source 3.1 is really allowed to fail here. 
 
 The correct title for this bug report should be: Support for linux 3.1
 is missing. not that it fails to compile...
 
 In order to use lustre you are supposed to grab your kernel source
 either from SLES or from kernel.org and compile manually. 

Upstream support is irrelavant for this bug.
If this package don't work starting from 3.1 , then it probably won't work
with 3.2 sources that Debian now ship for wheezy (didn't test myself).
This package should be updated to work with 3.2 sources or removed.



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Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-10 Thread Patrick Winnertz
Hey,

 Upstream support is irrelavant for this bug.
Nope it is not..

in fact this situation was exactly the same for the last two debian
releases... lustre didn't support the standard kernel in these
releases. 
this is not that bad than it sounds as lustre is a very very specific
kind of software, which is rarely/not at all used by normal users. 

This specific package is needed to build the kernel modules for the
server and the client servers of lustre - and for this you really need
plain kernel.org kernels (or SLES ones). 

I would really appreciate if we could come to the agreement, as done for
the last releases also, that the support of the standard debian kernel
is no RC bug for lustre. Loosing this type of software in debian, would
be not good. Citing wikipedia:

Because Lustre has high performance capabilities and open licensing, it
is often used in super computers. At the present time, fifteen of the
top 30 supercomputers in the world have Lustre file systems in them,
including the world's fastest TOP500 supercomputer, IBM Sequoia.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustre_(file_system))

Greetings
Winnie



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Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-10 Thread Touko Korpela
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:26:17PM +0200, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
 Hey,
 
  Upstream support is irrelavant for this bug.
 Nope it is not..
 
 in fact this situation was exactly the same for the last two debian
 releases... lustre didn't support the standard kernel in these
 releases. 
 this is not that bad than it sounds as lustre is a very very specific
 kind of software, which is rarely/not at all used by normal users. 
 
 This specific package is needed to build the kernel modules for the
 server and the client servers of lustre - and for this you really need
 plain kernel.org kernels (or SLES ones). 
 
 I would really appreciate if we could come to the agreement, as done for
 the last releases also, that the support of the standard debian kernel
 is no RC bug for lustre. Loosing this type of software in debian, would
 be not good. Citing wikipedia:
 
 Because Lustre has high performance capabilities and open licensing, it
 is often used in super computers. At the present time, fifteen of the
 top 30 supercomputers in the world have Lustre file systems in them,
 including the world's fastest TOP500 supercomputer, IBM Sequoia.
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustre_(file_system))

I read some basic information from homepage and Wikipedia.
Looks like 2.0, 2.1, 2.2 versions have been released in last years.
Shouldn't Debian package been updated to 2.x as well?
If staying on 1.8, 1.8.6 and later clients can interoperate 2.x servers.
But Debian package is still at 1.8.5 with some bugs that are fixed in later
versions.
Maybe you should ask wider opinion what to do with Lustre in Debian.



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Bug#651795: linux-3.1 is not supported by upstream

2012-07-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 10.07.2012 15:26, Patrick Winnertz wrote:
I would really appreciate if we could come to the agreement, as done 
for
the last releases also, that the support of the standard debian 
kernel

is no RC bug for lustre.


Who was it previously agreed with?

Regards,

Adam



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