Bug#662587: libgps20: please demote gpsd Recommends to Suggests

2012-03-31 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hi,

On 2012-03-30 21:24, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
 Could you provide some more details why you think that installing the package 
 is
 not what users want in substantial number of cases?

My rationale is:

Policy 7.2: The Recommends field should list packages that would be found 
together
with this one in all but unusual installations.

Then, as I noted in my previous mail, anyone installing/upgrading
kdebase-workspace (i.e., even minimal KDE installation) will install
libgps which will pull gpsd by default. Then I assume it's not unusual
for Debian KDE users to not want gpsd by default.

I also thought that we have a soft consensus that libraries should not
recommend applications but cannot find any references right now, so
maybe this thought is wrong.


I agree that the size of gpsd is small if we talk about disk space, but
I guess am not the only one who tries to have as less as possible extra
packages in the system.

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Bug#662587: libgps20: please demote gpsd Recommends to Suggests

2012-03-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
tag 662587 moreinfo
thanks

 'Recommends: gpsd' causes every application which depends on libgps
 [1] grab gpsd by default, which I believe not what users want in
 substantial number of cases.

with

Installed-Size: 219

and gpsd not being started by default (if it does for some reason it is eiter a
bug or you have a device which looks like a gps device) I don't think it is a
big piece of trouble.

Could you provide some more details why you think that installing the package is
not what users want in substantial number of cases?


Cheers,

Bernd

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Bug#662587: libgps20: please demote gpsd Recommends to Suggests

2012-03-05 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: libgps20
Version: 3.3-5
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

'Recommends: gpsd' causes every application which depends on libgps
[1] grab gpsd by default, which I believe not what users want in
substantial number of cases.


[1] like new plasma-dataengines-workspace, which is an absolute dependency
for even minimal KDE workspace:
-8-
$ cupt why plasma-dataengines-workspace
kdebase-workspace 4:4.6.3-1: Depends: kdebase-workspace-bin (= 4:4.6.3-1)
kdebase-workspace-bin 4:4.6.3-1: Depends: plasma-desktop (= 4:4.6.3-1) | 
plasma-netbook (= 4:4.6.3-1)
plasma-desktop 4:4.6.3-1: Depends: plasma-widgets-workspace (= 4:4.6.3-1)
plasma-widgets-workspace 4:4.6.3-1: Depends: plasma-dataengines-workspace (= 
4:4.6.3-1)
-8-

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'unstable'), 
(500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-1-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=fi_FI.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fi_FI.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages libgps20 depends on:
ii  libbluetooth3  4.96-1
ii  libc6  2.13-7
ii  libdbus-1-31.4.18-1  
ii  libgcc11:4.6.2-11
ii  libstdc++6 4.6.2-11  
ii  libusb-1.0-0   2:1.0.8-2 
ii  multiarch-support  2.13-10   

Versions of packages libgps20 recommends:
ii  gpsd  3.3-5

libgps20 suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information



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