Bug#673406: Why not

2012-06-07 Thread Philipp Schafft
severity 673406 wishlist
tags 673406 moreinfo
thanks

reflum,

On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 14:28 +0100, Christine Caulfield wrote:
 Can you give me a good reason why it should not be a Debian native 
 package? It's been this way for a very long time now as you mentioned an 
 nobody else has felt the need to complain. In fact (though I can't be 
 sure) I think it was recommended to me in the first place by someone 
 else on the project.
 
 [...]
 
 Making it a non-native package just doubles my workload for a package 
 that has extremely minimal use and benefits nobody that I can see.

I fully support this statement.
Maybe Steve McIntyre can give some more input on this.

As this does not affect useability nor usefullnes and the above I do
downgrade this to wishlist for the moment.

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Bug#673406: Why not

2012-06-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 03:19:18PM +0200, Philipp Schafft wrote:
severity 673406 wishlist
tags 673406 moreinfo
thanks

reflum,

On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 14:28 +0100, Christine Caulfield wrote:
 Can you give me a good reason why it should not be a Debian native 
 package? It's been this way for a very long time now as you mentioned an 
 nobody else has felt the need to complain. In fact (though I can't be 
 sure) I think it was recommended to me in the first place by someone 
 else on the project.
 
 [...]
 
 Making it a non-native package just doubles my workload for a package 
 that has extremely minimal use and benefits nobody that I can see.

I fully support this statement.
Maybe Steve McIntyre can give some more input on this.

There's good reasoning at

  
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq#What_is_the_difference_between_a_native_Debian_package_and_a_non-native_package.3F

Basically, unless you have a *really* good reason to make a package
native then you should do upstream releases and then separate Debian
releases from that. If it *really* needs to be a native package then
help to avoid confusion: clean up the droppings that suggest otherwise
like the .spec file.

Then again, based on Christine's earlier mail that I didn't get...

To the best of my knowledge no other distribution provides the decnet
kernel module that it depends on, and I don't release separate
upstream sources any more. The rpm.spec probably doesn't produce a
usable RPM any more and is most definitely is not Fedora-compliant!

Making it a non-native package just doubles my workload for a package
that has extremely minimal use and benefits nobody that I can see.

If no other distro is using this and you reckon it has extremely
minimal use, is this even worth keeping in Debian at all? Until the
recent mess that saw decnet being pulled in by a severely broken
dependency chain, the popcon score was *tiny*.

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Bug#673406: Why not

2012-05-21 Thread Christine Caulfield
Can you give me a good reason why it should not be a Debian native 
package? It's been this way for a very long time now as you mentioned an 
nobody else has felt the need to complain. In fact (though I can't be 
sure) I think it was recommended to me in the first place by someone 
else on the project.


To the best of my knowledge no other distribution provides the decnet 
kernel module that it depends on, and I don't release separate upstream 
sources any more. The rpm.spec probably doesn't produce a usable RPM any 
more and is most definitely is not Fedora-compliant!


Making it a non-native package just doubles my workload for a package 
that has extremely minimal use and benefits nobody that I can see.





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