Bug#685801: Wheezy can't boot on netbook

2012-08-27 Thread Gasha


Another workaround, was to select expert install, and modify command 
line to include "vga=0".

At least that worked on ASUS EEE 701 model.

Default framebuffer resolution is too high for EEE 701. Installer does 
not detect, if monitor/LCD is capable to display that.


Gasha

On 08/25/2012 02:35 PM, Ben Armstrong wrote:

On 25/08/12 07:29 AM, os.n...@gmx.de wrote:
   

please have a look at bug 655505. I reported the same or similar
bug at 11. January 2012 with the installer. Now I wanted to try out
if the bug is solved.
 

Sure, no problem with that. But in that case, since you did an actual
install, an installation-reports bug would have been appropriate. Also,
if you think it's the same bug, why not file additional info on 655505
instead of filing a new bug? (Though looking at that bug now, it would
probably be better to reassign to the kernel if your suspicions that
it's a kernel issue are correct. It doesn't seem like a bug in the
installer.)

   

Because I use the netbook daily for work now, I don't install a new
release at my own risk. That's why I first try a live version and if
everything is fine I will install later. Because there is no
official live built image of Wheezy I had to built it myself.
 

And no problem with that, either. However, booting a live image is not
an install, so an installation-reports bug is not appropriate.

   

For testing a beta release of Wheezy it would be good if you create
an official live built image rather than to force the user to make
an installation.
 

And as soon as we (speaking for the debian-live team, now) can, we will,
of course. The fact that we have not yet should tell you something. (It
is not from lack of caring that they are not there yet.) Meanwhile,
please file bugs against appropriate (pseudo-)packages to help us track
issues better.

Had this particular issue been a problem with the live build service or
live build toolchain, the live team might not know it because they
generally do not follow the live-boot list. The only reason I even
discovered that this involved a live image is because you put "netbook"
in the subject which is a particular interest of mine.

I do not want to discourage you from filing reports. It is much
appreciated. I am just concerned about them being misdirected so they
don't get attention, or else needlessly tie up time being reviewed by
the wrong team. I hope you understand.

Back on-topic again, in 655505 you talked about Knoppix cheatcodes. In
response, you were told how to blacklist modules. Did you try that? It
seems the most fruitful line of inquiry here would be to close out this
bug and reassign that one to the kernel, continuing to try to narrow
down what it is about the kernel that hates your hardware.

Thanks,
Ben


   



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Bug#685801: Wheezy can't boot on netbook

2012-08-25 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 25/08/12 07:29 AM, os.n...@gmx.de wrote:
> please have a look at bug 655505. I reported the same or similar
> bug at 11. January 2012 with the installer. Now I wanted to try out
> if the bug is solved.

Sure, no problem with that. But in that case, since you did an actual
install, an installation-reports bug would have been appropriate. Also,
if you think it's the same bug, why not file additional info on 655505
instead of filing a new bug? (Though looking at that bug now, it would
probably be better to reassign to the kernel if your suspicions that
it's a kernel issue are correct. It doesn't seem like a bug in the
installer.)

> Because I use the netbook daily for work now, I don't install a new
> release at my own risk. That's why I first try a live version and if
> everything is fine I will install later. Because there is no
> official live built image of Wheezy I had to built it myself. 

And no problem with that, either. However, booting a live image is not
an install, so an installation-reports bug is not appropriate.

> For testing a beta release of Wheezy it would be good if you create
> an official live built image rather than to force the user to make
> an installation.

And as soon as we (speaking for the debian-live team, now) can, we will,
of course. The fact that we have not yet should tell you something. (It
is not from lack of caring that they are not there yet.) Meanwhile,
please file bugs against appropriate (pseudo-)packages to help us track
issues better.

Had this particular issue been a problem with the live build service or
live build toolchain, the live team might not know it because they
generally do not follow the live-boot list. The only reason I even
discovered that this involved a live image is because you put "netbook"
in the subject which is a particular interest of mine.

I do not want to discourage you from filing reports. It is much
appreciated. I am just concerned about them being misdirected so they
don't get attention, or else needlessly tie up time being reviewed by
the wrong team. I hope you understand.

Back on-topic again, in 655505 you talked about Knoppix cheatcodes. In
response, you were told how to blacklist modules. Did you try that? It
seems the most fruitful line of inquiry here would be to close out this
bug and reassign that one to the kernel, continuing to try to narrow
down what it is about the kernel that hates your hardware.

Thanks,
Ben


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Bug#685801: Wheezy can't boot on netbook

2012-08-25 Thread os.n...@gmx.de
Hello Ben,

please have a look at bug 655505. I reported the same or similar bug at 11. 
January 2012 with the installer. Now I wanted to try out if the bug is solved.

Because I use the netbook daily for work now, I don't install a new release at 
my own risk. That's why I first try a live version and if everything is fine I 
will install later. Because there is no official live built image of Wheezy I 
had to built it myself. 

For testing a beta release of Wheezy it would be good if you create an official 
live built image rather than to force the user to make an installation.

Best wishes
Oliver


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Bug#685801: Wheezy can't boot on netbook

2012-08-24 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 24/08/12 01:22 PM, os.n...@gmx.de wrote:
> Package: installation-reports
> 
> I built the following live iso-hybrid from http://live-build.debian.net:
> 
> distribution: wheezy
> package-lists: kde
> architectures: i386
> bootstrap-flavour: standard
> linux-flavours: 486
> bootappend: locales=de_DE.UTF-8 keyboard-layout=de timezone=Europe/Berlin
> 
> Then I copied the iso-hybrid file to an USB stick and booted my Asus EeePC 
> 1015BX netbook. I saw the first screen (where you could enter the boot 
> options), pressed the return key, Wheezy begins to start (I saw the some 
> lines of the boot process) but than hang up with a black screen. When I 
> switch to another console (Alt+F2 key) the screen is almost black with some 
> casual white lines but no text or command prompt.
> 
> Debian Stable (Squeeze) works fine on my netbook.
> 
> If you need further information please let me know.

There may indeed be a bug here affecting an install, but if there is,
you had better actually try an install before filing an
installation-reports bug (i.e. use an official beta wheezy installer
image, not a self-built live image).

If you need assistance using the live-build.debian.net service, please
contact debian-l...@lists.debian.org which is responsible for its operation.

Thanks,
Ben


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Bug#685801: Wheezy can't boot on netbook

2012-08-24 Thread os.n...@gmx.de
Package: installation-reports

I built the following live iso-hybrid from http://live-build.debian.net:

distribution: wheezy
package-lists: kde
architectures: i386
bootstrap-flavour: standard
linux-flavours: 486
bootappend: locales=de_DE.UTF-8 keyboard-layout=de timezone=Europe/Berlin

Then I copied the iso-hybrid file to an USB stick and booted my Asus EeePC 
1015BX netbook. I saw the first screen (where you could enter the boot 
options), pressed the return key, Wheezy begins to start (I saw the some lines 
of the boot process) but than hang up with a black screen. When I switch to 
another console (Alt+F2 key) the screen is almost black with some casual white 
lines but no text or command prompt.

Debian Stable (Squeeze) works fine on my netbook.

If you need further information please let me know.

Best wishes
Oliver
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