Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Hi Norbert,

Am 30.10.2012 00:25, schrieb Norbert Preining:

Ok, I have now added code to all/debian/rules.in, and created a script
that does the job.


Fine, thanks!


One question remains from my side: Isn't there anything else that
has to be doneto activate the fonts? No fonts.scale shipping?
No dh_foobar call? Am I missing something? The links are enough?


No, in order to activate the fonts for fontconfig, it is sufficient to 
install them into the /usr/share/fonts name space. The fontconfig 
package claims an interest in this directory and is instantly notified 
when new fonts are installed, so fontconfig can regenerate its cache.


The fonts.scale file is only needed if you want to make the font 
available to the classic X font server (c.f. xfontsel), but this is 
not the purpose of my request. To register the fonts.scale files with 
the X server, a call to dh_installxfonts is needed. This is, however, 
not necessary for fontconfig.


 - Fabian


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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Fabian Greffrath 
PS: Norbert, I have seen you added the math flavours of tex-gyre and 
lmodern to the Debian packages. Thanks for that.


But I doubt that these math flavours are of any use for applications 
outside the TeX ecosystem. Please consider removing their install 
paths from the fontconfig files again and please do also explicitely 
keep the Type1 variant out of fontconfig.


 - Fabian


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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Norbert Preining 
Hi


 PS: Norbert, I have seen you added the math flavours of tex-gyre and lmodern 
 to the Debian packages. Thanks for that.i
 
 But I doubt that these math flavours are of any use for applications outside 
 the TeX ecosystem. Please consider removing their install paths from the 
 fontconfig files again and please do also explicitely keep the Type1 variant 
 out of fontconfig.

Do you have a specific reason?

For lmodern the old version of the math otf font was shipped in the lm opentype 
dir, so it was activated.

Some TeX applications use fontconfig to search for fonts (xetex)

Libreoffice might get math font support, these fonts are not the normal TeX 
math fonts, but are more like Cambria Math.

It might be very well useful for gimp, libreoffice, inkscape, whatever users!?

So unless you have a specific reason, I tend to keep them in there.

Norbert

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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Am 30.10.2012 09:32, schrieb Norbert Preining:

For lmodern the old version of the math otf font was shipped in the
lm opentype dir, so it was activated.

Some TeX applications use fontconfig to search for fonts (xetex)

Libreoffice might get math font support, these fonts are not the
normal TeX math fonts, but are more like Cambria Math.


Sorry for the fuzz, I didn't know all of this. Please forget abot it.

However, I am afraid that both the Type 1 and the Opentype fonts 
become visible to fontconfig and that the new math fonts end up 
duplicated with similar but not identical names (just like we had it 
for e.g. TeX Gyre Termes and TeXGyreTermes).



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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Hi again,

I just checked myself by rebuilding the packages from GIT (the 
upstream tags have not yet been pushed!).


The new math fonts are only available in OpenType format, so there is 
no name space clash with the Type 1 fonts.


However, I have found dangling symlinks in /etc/fonts/conf.d in the 
fonts-texgyre package (yay for dynamically generated links!).


Everything else looks fine!

 - Fabian


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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Am 30.10.2012 10:37, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:

However, I have found dangling symlinks in /etc/fonts/conf.d in the
fonts-texgyre package (yay for dynamically generated links!).


This will help:

diff --git a/debian/rules b/debian/rules
index b8b40aa..ea13913 100755
--- a/debian/rules
+++ b/debian/rules
@@ -141,10 +140,10 @@ binary-indep: build-indep
usr/share/doc/$(PPP)/README-TeX-Gyre-Termes-Math.txt \
  ; )
dh_link -p $(PKGFONTS) \
-   etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-$(PKG).conf \
-   etc/fonts/conf.d/65-$(PKG).conf \
-   etc/fonts/conf.avail/30-$(PKG)-aliases.conf \
-   etc/fonts/conf.d/30-$(PKG)-aliases.conf
+   etc/fonts/conf.avail/65-$(PKGFONTS).conf \
+   etc/fonts/conf.d/65-$(PKGFONTS).conf \
+   etc/fonts/conf.avail/30-$(PKGFONTS)-aliases.conf \
+   etc/fonts/conf.d/30-$(PKGFONTS)-aliases.conf

dh_installdocs
dh_installchangelogs

 - Fabian


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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Norbert Preining 
Hi Fabian,

On Di, 30 Okt 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 I just checked myself by rebuilding the packages from GIT (the upstream 
 tags have not yet been pushed!).

Because it is still in NEW ;-)

 The new math fonts are only available in OpenType format, so there is no 
 name space clash with the Type 1 fonts.

Right.

 However, I have found dangling symlinks in /etc/fonts/conf.d in the  
 fonts-texgyre package (yay for dynamically generated links!).

Thanks for spotting this, typo in rules file.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-30 Thread Norbert Preining 
On Mi, 31 Okt 2012, Norbert Preining wrote:
  I just checked myself by rebuilding the packages from GIT (the upstream 
  tags have not yet been pushed!).
 
 Because it is still in NEW ;-)

Actually, because I forgot to tag it  shame on me.
ANyway, I uploaded -2 with the links fixed, tagged it and pushed the
tags out.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-29 Thread Norbert Preining 
Hi Fabian,

On Do, 25 Okt 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 My attempt was to concretize the idea to make selected texlive fonts  
 available to fontconfig, as described in the initial bug report. I am  

Ok, I have now added code to all/debian/rules.in, and created a script
that does the job.

One question remains from my side: Isn't there anything else that
has to be doneto activate the fonts? No fonts.scale shipping?
No dh_foobar call? Am I missing something? The links are enough?

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-25 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Good morning Norbert,

Am 25.10.2012 00:50, schrieb Norbert Preining:

Are you sure that all the fonts that are in
texmf-dist/fonts/type1/{adobe,bitstrea,urw}/*/*.pfb
in the texlive-base.orig.tar.gz, now and in future, will be installed
into texlive-fonts-recommended? I am not sure.


Me neither, my patch merely applies to the current state (i.e. what I 
got by apt-get source texlive-fonts-recommended, I just used 
git-diff for the actual patch).



I guess it would be better to move this snippet to a later place,
and search for
for p in debian/texmf-fonts-recommended/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist...
instead. What do you think?


Yes, this sounds more future-proof.


Concerning the selectin of fonts, did you check:
* arkandis
* some of the gust/poltawski/ (the 10pt fonts) might be of interest
* nowacki/*
* ...


No, I did just check the fonts in the recommended set. I didn't even 
bother to check those in the extra set, I assumed they are there for a 
reason. ;)



I guess the list of directories to be checked should actually be
managed somewhere outside the rules file, in a file under debian.


Yes, this sounds like a cleaner solution.


Anyway, what do you think? And I guess I will include something like this
in the git packaging.


My attempt was to concretize the idea to make selected texlive fonts 
available to fontconfig, as described in the initial bug report. I am 
fine with whatever implementation you envision to achieve this goal. 
My experience with the texlive packages is just too limited to impose 
my own solution upon them. ;)


Cheers,
 - Fabian


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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-24 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Am 08.10.2012 10:57, schrieb Fabian Greffrath:

So it'd be a better idea to symlink all the relevant .pfb and .afm
files into /usr/share/fonts/type1 than adding their directories to
fontconfig's search pattern, right?


I have added a few lines to debian/rules that take all the .pfb files 
in the adobe, bitstrea and urw directories, checks if a corresponding 
.afm file exists and than adds symlinks for both files to 
debian/texlive-fonts-recommended.links. These symlinks point to 
/usr/share/fonts/type1/texlive-fonts-recommended/, where the fonts can 
be found by fontconfig. Of course, this directory has to be created in 
advance, e.g. by means of a debian/texlive-fonts-recommended.dirs file.


I have restricted this procedure to the adobe, bitstrea and urw fonts, 
because I think they are the only ones in the package that add value 
for non-TeX related applications. I have checked the other fonts as 
well, but they are either symbol fonts (public/eurosym, 
public/marvosym, public/wasy) or specialized duplicates of Times 
(public/txfonts) or Palatino (public/fpl, public/mathpazo, 
public/pxfonts) or exist only in uppercase (public/rsfs).


 - Fabian

diff --git a/debian/rules.orig b/debian/rules
index a7d9a17..e091093 100755
--- a/debian/rules.orig
+++ b/debian/rules
@@ -47,6 +47,13 @@ install-stamp: build-stamp
 	  if [ -r debian/$$i.README ] ; then cat debian/$$i.README  debian/$$i.README.Debian ; fi ; \
 	  cat debian/README.Debian  debian/$$i.README.Debian ; \
 	done
+	for p in texmf-dist/fonts/type1/{adobe,bitstrea,urw}/*/*.pfb ; do \
+	  a=`echo $$p | sed -e 's/type1\|pfb/afm/g'` ; \
+	  if [ -e $$p -a -e $$a ] ; then \
+	echo usr/share/texlive/$$p usr/share/fonts/type1/texlive-fonts-recommended/`basename $$p` ; \
+	echo usr/share/texlive/$$a usr/share/fonts/type1/texlive-fonts-recommended/`basename $$a` ; \
+	  fi ; \
+	done | sort  debian/texlive-fonts-recommended.links
 	touch install-stamp
 
 binary-arch:

Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-24 Thread Norbert Preining 
Hi Fabian,

thanks for the patch and idea ..

On Mi, 24 Okt 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 I have added a few lines to debian/rules that take all the .pfb files in 

Assume that we go this way, looking at your patch I have some 
questions:

 + for p in texmf-dist/fonts/type1/{adobe,bitstrea,urw}/*/*.pfb ; do \
 +   a=`echo $$p | sed -e 's/type1\|pfb/afm/g'` ; \
 +   if [ -e $$p -a -e $$a ] ; then \
 + echo usr/share/texlive/$$p 
 usr/share/fonts/type1/texlive-fonts-recommended/`basename $$p` ; \
 + echo usr/share/texlive/$$a 
 usr/share/fonts/type1/texlive-fonts-recommended/`basename $$a` ; \
 +   fi ; \
 + done | sort  debian/texlive-fonts-recommended.links

Are you sure that all the fonts that are in 
texmf-dist/fonts/type1/{adobe,bitstrea,urw}/*/*.pfb
in the texlive-base.orig.tar.gz, now and in future, will be installed
into texlive-fonts-recommended? I am not sure.

I guess it would be better to move this snippet to a later place,
and search for
for p in debian/texmf-fonts-recommended/usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist...
instead. What do you think?


Concerning the selectin of fonts, did you check:
* arkandis
* some of the gust/poltawski/ (the 10pt fonts) might be of interest
* nowacki/*
* ...

I guess the list of directories to be checked should actually be
managed somewhere outside the rules file, in a file under debian.

Anyway, what do you think? And I guess I will include something like this
in the git packaging.

Best wishes

Norbert

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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-08 Thread Fabian Greffrath 

Am 08.10.2012 02:40, schrieb Norbert Preining:

afm files provides the metrics for the characters, without them
the display looks bad. The X server (at least at some point int
the past) searched for the afm files in the same directory as
the pfb/pfa files.


So it'd be a better idea to symlink all the relevant .pfb and .afm 
files into /usr/share/fonts/type1 than adding their directories to 
fontconfig's search pattern, right?



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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-07 Thread Fabian Greffrath 
On second thought, this approach will miss the .afm files. I am not yet
sure what to do with them, as some are duplicated in adobe/ and urw/
directories, respectively. What exactly is their purpose, are they
required at all?

 - Fabian


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Bug#689837: Acknowledgement (Please register the psnfss fonts with fontconfig)

2012-10-07 Thread Norbert Preining 
On So, 07 Okt 2012, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
 On second thought, this approach will miss the .afm files. I am not yet
 sure what to do with them, as some are duplicated in adobe/ and urw/
 directories, respectively. What exactly is their purpose, are they
 required at all?

afm files provides the metrics for the characters, without them
the display looks bad. The X server (at least at some point int
the past) searched for the afm files in the same directory as
the pfb/pfa files.

Best wishes

Norbert

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