Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 09:38:42PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 08:21:41PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Do we have similar software for other jurisdictions in the archive? taxbird's the only one I've heard of needing updates, but that might just be an issue of timing. (apt-cache search tax mostly seems to throw up results relating to syntax checking or highlighting.) I don't know, but thought that all of gnucash, aqbanking-tools, tryton, openerp, sql-ledger, and what-not should be affected one way or the other. Ie, all business software packages that deal in taxes and/or banking, to begin with. Of course, if one doesn't use the relevant module, or if the package does not include that functionality, then one should be unaffected, but I certainly don't have enough overview, either. aqbanking-tools does banking, hence doesn't need to care much about taxes. gnucash doesn't have centralized tax information AFAIK, you can just setup your own rules within the data file. That said, and I think I said this on this list before: If an update would just touch the yearly definition file or add new ones, that would be fine. This update is huge in that there are updates all over the UI, due to the switch away from Glade. Normally it would be much too late for this change at this point. Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
On 19.12.2012 20:38, Toni Mueller wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 08:21:41PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Do we have similar software for other jurisdictions in the archive? taxbird's the only one I've heard of needing updates, but that might just be an issue of timing. (apt-cache search tax mostly seems to throw up results relating to syntax checking or highlighting.) I don't know, but thought that all of gnucash, aqbanking-tools, tryton, openerp, sql-ledger, and what-not should be affected one way or the other. Ie, all business software packages that deal in taxes and/or banking, to begin with. Of course, if one doesn't use the relevant module, or if the package does not include that functionality, then one should be unaffected, but I certainly don't have enough overview, either. That doesn't seem an unreasonable conclusion, indeed. I'm just surprised / curious / whatever that we don't see requests for updating any of those in stable for similar reasons. Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 08:05 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:32:18AM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote: You can track progress at http://bugs.debian.org/692011. Also if you I suggest that taxbird goes into volatile. Volatile doesn't exist any more. It's called stable (using the stable-updates channel to get fixes in more quickly) these days. Indeed. Also, the release cycle of taxbird, or any other such program, is largely determined by changes in federal law, and not by Debian's (or any other distribution's) release cycle. That would be analagous to tzdata, which also gets updates through stable-updates. Potentially, yes. tzdata's debdiff tends not to end up as 83 files changed, 13318 insertions(+), 16724 deletions(-) though. :-( Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
Hi, On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 07:49:55PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Potentially, yes. tzdata's debdiff tends not to end up as 83 files changed, 13318 insertions(+), 16724 deletions(-) though. :-( ok, so what do you suggest? I reckon that all tax calculating software should have this problem. Kind regards, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 21:13 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 07:49:55PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Potentially, yes. tzdata's debdiff tends not to end up as 83 files changed, 13318 insertions(+), 16724 deletions(-) though. :-( ok, so what do you suggest? I reckon that all tax calculating software should have this problem. Do we have similar software for other jurisdictions in the archive? taxbird's the only one I've heard of needing updates, but that might just be an issue of timing. (apt-cache search tax mostly seems to throw up results relating to syntax checking or highlighting.) Regards, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 08:21:41PM +, Adam D. Barratt wrote: Do we have similar software for other jurisdictions in the archive? taxbird's the only one I've heard of needing updates, but that might just be an issue of timing. (apt-cache search tax mostly seems to throw up results relating to syntax checking or highlighting.) I don't know, but thought that all of gnucash, aqbanking-tools, tryton, openerp, sql-ledger, and what-not should be affected one way or the other. Ie, all business software packages that deal in taxes and/or banking, to begin with. Of course, if one doesn't use the relevant module, or if the package does not include that functionality, then one should be unaffected, but I certainly don't have enough overview, either. Kind regards, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692011: taxbird: version in testing (0.16.x) is completely useless, need the latest version for 2012 tax declaration
(cc-ing the bug, hoping that's ok) Hi Toni, Toni Mueller wrote: On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:32:18AM -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote: You can track progress at http://bugs.debian.org/692011. Also if you I suggest that taxbird goes into volatile. Volatile doesn't exist any more. It's called stable (using the stable-updates channel to get fixes in more quickly) these days. [...] Also, the release cycle of taxbird, or any other such program, is largely determined by changes in federal law, and not by Debian's (or any other distribution's) release cycle. That would be analagous to tzdata, which also gets updates through stable-updates. Regards, Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
