Bug#692124: rygel: freezed version of rygel is missing very important fixes
On Mon, Nov 05, 2012 at 12:56:45PM +0100, Michel Briand wrote: > Andreas Henriksson - Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:24:55 +0100 [...] > >While there are several nice improvements in the 0.16 series, > >I definitely would not agree that 0.14 is unusable. > > The sort order of all music album is alphabetical and makes this > program definitely "unusable" for playing music. I still disagree with you. A couple of reasons: There are many common uses-cases which does not involve music playing at all. While playing a music album in track order might be a good default, not everyone wants to do that Since the music somehow plays still, I don't see it as unusable - just inconvenient. > > >I've made 0.16 packages available in experimental but I haven't > >had much time on working at making them release quality yet. > > What is "release quality" ? How can I help, what do you need, to make > them release quality ? There's some indication that the packaged software actually works for some usecase. (For example the 0.16 version ubuntu initially where going to ship in their most recent release was severly broken - fortunately caught and fixed in time before the release.) The package doesn't miss installing files from the upstream build system. (Which is currently the case.) And I bet if/when we start looking closer we'll find more issues. So what you can help out with is basically looking/hunting for issues and fixing them. Just by looking briefly I've already identified issues exists and I'm pretty sure there are more. Your help is very welcome. > > >Also, this is not up to me unless you can convince the > >release team - this will not happen for wheezy. > >You're more then welcome to help out creating backports for wheeezy. > >I'm sure there will be alot more stuff that are cool in the 0.18 and > >future series as well which wheezy users will want to use > > The very need of backport is that packages are obsolete when stable > is released. This is the other side of the coin. You need to insert "for *me*" in the above sentence for it to be true. There are alot of users who are perfectly happy users of the current package which will be upset if something is broken for them now. > > I can help to make this not to happen for rygel :). You're joining the party very late, so I doubt you can but would be very happy if you could prove me wrong on that. > > Regards, > Michel > -- Andreas Henriksson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692124: rygel: freezed version of rygel is missing very important fixes
Andreas Henriksson - Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:24:55 +0100 >On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 01:17:10PM +0100, Michel Briand (Quand on veut on peut >!) wrote: >[...] >> In the current squeeze version (0.14.3-2) the package works > >You mean wheezy. Squeeze has 0.6.0-1 and 0.14 is very big improvement >over 0.6. Absolutely. >> but lacks a quality improvement that makes it usable. > >While there are several nice improvements in the 0.16 series, >I definitely would not agree that 0.14 is unusable. The sort order of all music album is alphabetical and makes this program definitely "unusable" for playing music. >I've made 0.16 packages available in experimental but I haven't >had much time on working at making them release quality yet. What is "release quality" ? How can I help, what do you need, to make them release quality ? >Also, this is not up to me unless you can convince the >release team - this will not happen for wheezy. >You're more then welcome to help out creating backports for wheeezy. >I'm sure there will be alot more stuff that are cool in the 0.18 and >future series as well which wheezy users will want to use The very need of backport is that packages are obsolete when stable is released. This is the other side of the coin. I can help to make this not to happen for rygel :). Regards, Michel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692124: rygel: freezed version of rygel is missing very important fixes
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 01:17:10PM +0100, Michel Briand (Quand on veut on peut !) wrote: [...] > In the current squeeze version (0.14.3-2) the package works You mean wheezy. Squeeze has 0.6.0-1 and 0.14 is very big improvement over 0.6. > but lacks a quality improvement that makes it usable. While there are several nice improvements in the 0.16 series, I definitely would not agree that 0.14 is unusable. I've made 0.16 packages available in experimental but I haven't had much time on working at making them release quality yet. Also, this is not up to me unless you can convince the release team - this will not happen for wheezy. You're more then welcome to help out creating backports for wheeezy. I'm sure there will be alot more stuff that are cool in the 0.18 and future series as well which wheezy users will want to use -- Andreas Henriksson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#692124: rygel: freezed version of rygel is missing very important fixes
Package: rygel Version: 0.14.3-2 Severity: important Dear Maintainer, rygel version 0.15 and above have very important fixes [1] and next Debian stable should really consider bump it. A major fix is for example the sorting algorithm for audio files [2]. In the current squeeze version (0.14.3-2) the package works but lacks a quality improvement that makes it usable. Best regards, Michel -- System Information: Debian Release: wheezy/sid APT prefers testing APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages rygel depends on: ii libc62.13-35 ii libgee2 0.6.4-2 ii libglib2.0-0 2.33.12+really2.32.4-2 ii libgssdp-1.0-3 0.12.1-2 ii libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 0.10.36-1 ii libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.36-1 ii libgupnp-1.0-4 0.18.3-1 ii libgupnp-av-1.0-20.10.2-1 ii libgupnp-dlna-1.0-2 0.6.6-1 ii libsoup2.4-1 2.38.1-2 ii libsqlite3-0 3.7.13-1 ii libunistring00.9.3-5 ii libuuid1 2.20.1-5.2 ii libxml2 2.8.0+dfsg1-6 Versions of packages rygel recommends: ii gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg0.10.13-5 ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-base 0.10.36-1 ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly 0.10.19-2+b2 Versions of packages rygel suggests: pn rygel-mediathek ii rygel-playbin 0.14.3-2 ii rygel-preferences 0.14.3-2 pn rygel-tracker ii tumbler0.1.25-1+b1 -- no debconf information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
