Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
Am 21.01.2013 22:30, schrieb Cyril Brulebois: Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org (14/01/2013): That seems fair, though I think it's a bit late for this to happen wrt the release. I was about to do the removal when partly cleaning out tasks at DebConf 11, then finally I remained conservative. We still have questions about enabling PCMCIA in the installer, by the way (fortunately at low priority level). If anyone is wondering: no objection from my side. I stumbled upon this old bug. Christian, do you still have any concerns dropping pcmciautils from the laptop-task? I'd really like to see it removed there. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
Hi, 2013-01-22 06:57, Christian PERRIER skrev: So, for once, *I* would be the one who is conservative? :-) While I understand we'll have to do this some day, I fear some weird regressions for some hardware we still support and I don't really see the harm done by having pcmciautils installed. As I remember it (and as Colin said), you need pcmciautils for 16-bit PCMCIA cards. I actually run wheezy on an old laptop which does support 16-bit cards (it runs Gnome in fallback mode). I don't use any 16-bit cards, though. Perhaps the ideal solution would be to only install pcmciautils in d-i if the system really does have PCMCIA/Cardbus hardware. It should be possible to check via /sys. (Speaking as pcmciautils co-maintainer and former pcmcia-cs maintainer...) -- Pelle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org (14/01/2013): That seems fair, though I think it's a bit late for this to happen wrt the release. I was about to do the removal when partly cleaning out tasks at DebConf 11, then finally I remained conservative. We still have questions about enabling PCMCIA in the installer, by the way (fortunately at low priority level). If anyone is wondering: no objection from my side. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
Quoting Cyril Brulebois (k...@debian.org): Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org (14/01/2013): That seems fair, though I think it's a bit late for this to happen wrt the release. I was about to do the removal when partly cleaning out tasks at DebConf 11, then finally I remained conservative. We still have questions about enabling PCMCIA in the installer, by the way (fortunately at low priority level). If anyone is wondering: no objection from my side. So, for once, *I* would be the one who is conservative? :-) While I understand we'll have to do this some day, I fear some weird regressions for some hardware we still support and I don't really see the harm done by having pcmciautils installed. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 06:33:53AM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: PCMCIA is so uncommon nowadays that installing pcmciautils on every laptop by default is imho no longer warranted. I would thus like to see it removed from task-laptop, similar to apmd. PCMCIA has been a technology which was relevant in the 1990s and has been superseded by e.g. ExpressCard for over 10 years. I've CCed Colin, the pcmciautils maintainer, for his input. pcmciautils is a slightly misleading name, as it does some CardBus handling as well. However, it's true that udev improvements mean that it's no longer actually needed to get anything other than 16-bit PCMCIA cards up and running; so I think this proposed tasksel change is OK. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
Package: tasksel Version: 3.14 Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi, PCMCIA is so uncommon nowadays that installing pcmciautils on every laptop by default is imho no longer warranted. I would thus like to see it removed from task-laptop, similar to apmd. PCMCIA has been a technology which was relevant in the 1990s and has been superseded by e.g. ExpressCard for over 10 years. I've CCed Colin, the pcmciautils maintainer, for his input. Cheers, Michael -- System Information: Debian Release: 7.0 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Foreign Architectures: i386 Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores) Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages tasksel depends on: ii apt 0.9.7.7 ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.49 ii liblocale-gettext-perl 1.05-7+b1 ii perl-base 5.14.2-16 ii tasksel-data3.14 tasksel recommends no packages. tasksel suggests no packages. -- debconf information excluded From 11500575ad8febfe1fb88ea2f76700278ddba8cc Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 06:32:50 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] Remove pcmciautils from laptop task --- debian/control |1 - 1 file changed, 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control index 0418d21..ef7a33f 100644 --- a/debian/control +++ b/debian/control @@ -253,7 +253,6 @@ Recommends: acpid, acpi, acpi-support, - pcmciautils, wireless-tools, wpasupplicant, avahi-autoipd, -- 1.7.10.4
Bug#698105: Please remove pcmciautils from laptop task
Quoting Michael Biebl (bi...@debian.org): Package: tasksel Version: 3.14 Severity: normal Tags: patch Hi, PCMCIA is so uncommon nowadays that installing pcmciautils on every laptop by default is imho no longer warranted. I would thus like to see it removed from task-laptop, similar to apmd. PCMCIA has been a technology which was relevant in the 1990s and has been superseded by e.g. ExpressCard for over 10 years. I've CCed Colin, the pcmciautils maintainer, for his input. That seems fair, though I think it's a bit late for this to happen wrt the release. I was about to do the removal when partly cleaning out tasks at DebConf 11, then finally I remained conservative. We still have questions about enabling PCMCIA in the installer, by the way (fortunately at low priority level). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
