Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
retitle #701798 please make it possible to run PowerDNS without bind backend tags #701798 wontfix upstream thanks On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:49:41AM +0400, Nikolay Shaplov wrote: More correct answer is bind plugin will fail if there is no libsqlite3-0 lib. The bind backend is not a plugin. It is always compiled in and cannot be turned off. If you want that to happen, you'll need to file a ticket upstream, and I have already been told by upstream that the answer will be please send working, tested and documented code. I am therefore tagging this Debian bug wontfix upstream. Right now I have a custom build of pdns 3.1 without any backends exept gpgsql and bind. Try it. I think it is a bad idea to include bind plugin in base package, because there is no way to throw it out when it is not used. Right. There currently is no way to throw the bind backend from any PowerDNS installation. Moreover, when I updated pdns 3.0 with normal pdns 3.1 everything stopped working because installer brought bind plugin configuration that overrided my own pgsql configuration... Did you read NEWS.Debian? You should. The change was necessary to make PowerDNS run directly after installation at the cost of breaking existing installations. A tough decision, but I had to take it. 1. Move bind plugin into separate package Not possible. The bind backend is not a plugin. Greetings Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:01:51AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: The bindbackend, which is part of pdns-server 3.1, uses sqlite3 for key storage. So a system running without libsqlite3-0 with bind backend won't be able to do DNSSEC? Would it fail gracefully or fatally in that situation? If PowerDNS handles this issue clearly, the dependency could be relaxed to a Recommends, but I'm not going to do that if the bind backend dies in that situation without clearly saying that sqlite3 is needed. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 31958061 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 31958062 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
Hi, On Mar 3, 2013, at 17:44 , Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:01:51AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: The bindbackend, which is part of pdns-server 3.1, uses sqlite3 for key storage. So a system running without libsqlite3-0 with bind backend won't be able to do DNSSEC? Would it fail gracefully or fatally in that situation? I'm pretty sure the answer is 'fatally'. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk Netherlabs Computer Consulting BV - http://www.netherlabs.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 07:55:55PM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: On Mar 3, 2013, at 17:44 , Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:01:51AM +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: The bindbackend, which is part of pdns-server 3.1, uses sqlite3 for key storage. So a system running without libsqlite3-0 with bind backend won't be able to do DNSSEC? Would it fail gracefully or fatally in that situation? I'm pretty sure the answer is 'fatally'. Too bad. So the dependency has to stay. I'll close this bug in a week if no other arguments surface. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 31958061 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 31958062 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
The bindbackend, which is part of pdns-server 3.1, uses sqlite3 for key storage. So a system running without libsqlite3-0 with bind backend won't be able to do DNSSEC? Would it fail gracefully or fatally in that situation? I'm pretty sure the answer is 'fatally'. More correct answer is bind plugin will fail if there is no libsqlite3-0 lib. Right now I have a custom build of pdns 3.1 without any backends exept gpgsql When it is configured to work with gpgslq everything works well. I think it is a bad idea to include bind plugin in base package, because there is no way to throw it out when it is not used. Moreover, when I updated pdns 3.0 with normal pdns 3.1 everything stopped working because installer brought bind plugin configuration that overrided my own pgsql configuration... I think that wise edition would be following: 1. Move bind plugin into separate package 2. Create meta-package pdns-backends, that represents any possible backend. If no particular backend were specified during installation or were not installed before. This will allow to create workable instance during first install, remove libsqlite3-0 when it is not needed, and be sure that other updates will not bring bind backend and it's configuration on future updates. So please do not close this bug. This bug seems to be more important then I think when I reported it :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
Package: pdns-server Version: 3.1-4 Severity: normal pnds-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason. If I manually remove gsqlite3 backend from building and packaging, and uninstall libsqlite3-dev and try to build pdns package manually, pdns-sever and all other backends builds successfully and all packages creates properly. And in this case pdsn-server does not depends on libsqlite3-0. So it is not source code, it might be some building options or something... It it not a very good idea to bring libsqlite3-0 on servers where it is not really used... -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.7 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages pdns-server depends on: ii adduser 3.112+nmu2 add and remove users and groups ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.36.1 Debian configuration management sy ii libboost-program-option 1.42.0-4 program options library for C++ ii libboost-serialization1 1.42.0-4 serialization library for C++ ii libc6 2.11.3-4 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libcrypto++85.6.0-6 General purpose cryptographic libr ii libgcc1 1:4.4.5-8GCC support library ii liblua5.1-0 5.1.4-5 Simple, extensible, embeddable pro ii libsqlite3-03.7.3-1 SQLite 3 shared library ii libstdc++6 4.4.5-8 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii ucf 3.0025+nmu1 Update Configuration File: preserv ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime pdns-server recommends no packages. Versions of packages pdns-server suggests: ii pdns-backend-pgsql [pdns-back 3.1-4 generic PostgreSQL backend for Pow pn pdns-recursor none (no description available) -- Configuration Files: /etc/powerdns/pdns.d/pdns.simplebind [Errno 2] No such file or directory: u'/etc/powerdns/pdns.d/pdns.simplebind' -- debconf information: * pdns-server/localaddress: 0.0.0.0 * pdns-server/allowrecursion: 127.0.0.1 * pdns-server/autostart: true -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#701798: pdns-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason
The bindbackend, which is part of pdns-server 3.1, uses sqlite3 for key storage. On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:16 , Nikolay Shaplov wrote: Package: pdns-server Version: 3.1-4 Severity: normal pnds-server package depends on libsqlite3-0 for no practical reason. If I manually remove gsqlite3 backend from building and packaging, and uninstall libsqlite3-dev and try to build pdns package manually, pdns-sever and all other backends builds successfully and all packages creates properly. And in this case pdsn-server does not depends on libsqlite3-0. So it is not source code, it might be some building options or something... It it not a very good idea to bring libsqlite3-0 on servers where it is not really used... -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.7 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core) Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash Versions of packages pdns-server depends on: ii adduser 3.112+nmu2 add and remove users and groups ii debconf [debconf-2.0] 1.5.36.1 Debian configuration management sy ii libboost-program-option 1.42.0-4 program options library for C++ ii libboost-serialization1 1.42.0-4 serialization library for C++ ii libc6 2.11.3-4 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib ii libcrypto++85.6.0-6 General purpose cryptographic libr ii libgcc1 1:4.4.5-8GCC support library ii liblua5.1-0 5.1.4-5 Simple, extensible, embeddable pro ii libsqlite3-03.7.3-1 SQLite 3 shared library ii libstdc++6 4.4.5-8 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 ii ucf 3.0025+nmu1 Update Configuration File: preserv ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3 compression library - runtime pdns-server recommends no packages. Versions of packages pdns-server suggests: ii pdns-backend-pgsql [pdns-back 3.1-4 generic PostgreSQL backend for Pow pn pdns-recursor none (no description available) -- Configuration Files: /etc/powerdns/pdns.d/pdns.simplebind [Errno 2] No such file or directory: u'/etc/powerdns/pdns.d/pdns.simplebind' -- debconf information: * pdns-server/localaddress: 0.0.0.0 * pdns-server/allowrecursion: 127.0.0.1 * pdns-server/autostart: true Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk Netherlabs Computer Consulting BV - http://www.netherlabs.nl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
