Bug#722850: Bug#722580: 722580 reopen

2013-09-18 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 18.09.2013 19:01, schrieb Andrew Chant:
 Reopening this bug report is correct.  I won't play re-open tag with
 you, though I hope you will consider re-opening the bug.
 Just checking for devtmpfs in /proc/filesystems is not enough.  The

Why not?

 update caused my system to stop booting, which no update should ever
 do.  You are correct that I have no initramfs.  I did have an
 up-to-date /etc/init.d/udev.

If you can show that there is an actual bug, sure then we can re-open
the bug report, but not without more information.


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Bug#722850: Bug#722580: 722580 reopen

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Chant
Reopening this bug report is correct.  I won't play re-open tag with
you, though I hope you will consider re-opening the bug.
Just checking for devtmpfs in /proc/filesystems is not enough.  The
update caused my system to stop booting, which no update should ever
do.  You are correct that I have no initramfs.  I did have an
up-to-date /etc/init.d/udev.


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
 Version: 204-4

 Am 18.09.2013 07:49, schrieb Andrew Chant:
 This update made my system unbootable due to no devices being created
 by udev.  However, I believe your fix won't work on my system.

 chant@zbz:~$ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep DEVTMP
 CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
 # CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT is not set

 this configuration was enough to cause the problem.

 That doesn't make sense.
 The reference you quoted is aborting the upgrade if DEVTMPFS is missing,
 which isn't in your case. So re-opening this particular bug report is wrong.
 I assume you have no initramfs and and outdated /etc/init.d/udev.



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Bug#722850: Bug#722580: 722580 reopen

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Chant
As-mentioned,
using the kernel from which I ran this:
chant@zbz:~$ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep DEVTMP
CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
# CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT is not set
I got a system which didn't load any modules and which failed to boot,
same symptoms as the initial bug.

I would hope you would be more cautious and careful when considering
reports that you're making people's systems unbootable.  Erring on the
side of caution and all that on such an important package.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
 Am 18.09.2013 19:01, schrieb Andrew Chant:
 Reopening this bug report is correct.  I won't play re-open tag with
 you, though I hope you will consider re-opening the bug.
 Just checking for devtmpfs in /proc/filesystems is not enough.  The

 Why not?

 update caused my system to stop booting, which no update should ever
 do.  You are correct that I have no initramfs.  I did have an
 up-to-date /etc/init.d/udev.

 If you can show that there is an actual bug, sure then we can re-open
 the bug report, but not without more information.


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Bug#722850: Bug#722580: 722580 reopen

2013-09-18 Thread Andrew Chant
Woops, CC'd the wrong bug.  sorry for the noise.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Andrew Chant
andrew.chant+deb...@gmail.com wrote:
 As-mentioned,
 using the kernel from which I ran this:
 chant@zbz:~$ zcat /proc/config.gz | grep DEVTMP
 CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
 # CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT is not set
 I got a system which didn't load any modules and which failed to boot,
 same symptoms as the initial bug.

 I would hope you would be more cautious and careful when considering
 reports that you're making people's systems unbootable.  Erring on the
 side of caution and all that on such an important package.

 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
 Am 18.09.2013 19:01, schrieb Andrew Chant:
 Reopening this bug report is correct.  I won't play re-open tag with
 you, though I hope you will consider re-opening the bug.
 Just checking for devtmpfs in /proc/filesystems is not enough.  The

 Why not?

 update caused my system to stop booting, which no update should ever
 do.  You are correct that I have no initramfs.  I did have an
 up-to-date /etc/init.d/udev.

 If you can show that there is an actual bug, sure then we can re-open
 the bug report, but not without more information.


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