Bug#732796: Please remove the link from open to openvt
Hello again Vita, On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:33:11PM +0200, Vitezslav Crhonek wrote: > On 05/28/2018 10:05 PM, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > > Hello Vitezslav Crhonek, [...] > > Hello Andreas, > > Sorry for late response. > > I have no objections against dropping it and I'm willing to do it > in Fedora Rawhide. Sorry for my late followup. I've gone ahead and dropped the open symlink in debian now and the new package version[1] of kbd[2] is already migrated to testing/buster[3]. This change will thus be part of the upcoming Buster release of debian. Would be happy if you also went ahead and dropped it on the Fedora side so we do this change at roughly the same time. If you have contacts at some other distribution which also carries the symlink, please do ask them to also drop it. Regards, Andreas Henriksson [1]: https://tracker.debian.org/news/976168/accepted-kbd-204-4-source-into-unstable/ [2]: https://tracker.debian.org/kbd [3]: https://tracker.debian.org/news/977473/kbd-204-4-migrated-to-testing/
Bug#732796: Please remove the link from open to openvt
On 05/28/2018 10:05 PM, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > Hello Vitezslav Crhonek, > > Gürkan Myczko sent the below forwarded message to fedora devel list > in May 2017, but it seems there was no followup so I'm trying > sending it directly to you as you seem to be the one who has > been actively committing to the kbd package in fedora. > > In summary, some people would like to se "open" command be used > for a different purpose than the current decades old compatibility > link. Personally I think if/when the link is removed we should make > sure it's not reused for anything for multiple releases/years to avoid > confusion about it pointing to different things in different > things in different distros. > > What do you think? Is it doable to drop it in Fedora? > > I'd be willing to drop it in Debian which should trickle down to > all derived .deb based distros. Hopefully if you change Fedora > the rest of the .rpm world will follow suite. This should make > the change pretty universal I think and avoid deviating between > different distros. > > Regards, > Andreas Henriksson > > > > - Forwarded message from Gürkan Myczko - > > Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 14:00:52 +0200 > From: Gürkan Myczko > To: de...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: 732...@bugs.debian.org > Subject: Please remove the link from open to openvt > User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.5 > > Hello, > > First, I have no relation to Fedora, but I write here because of this bug in > Debian: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732796 > > Would you guys at Fedora feel like it's time to get rid of the symlink > /bin/open to make space for > xdg-open (for fdo fans) or gopen/openapp (for macOS, GNUstep fans). > > The name change was like 16 years ago. And I wasn't able to find anything > still using /bin/open. > > Thanks, > Myczko > > > - End forwarded message - > Hello Andreas, Sorry for late response. I have no objections against dropping it and I'm willing to do it in Fedora Rawhide. Best regards, Vita -- Vitezslav Crhonek Software Engineer Red Hat signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#732796: Please remove the link from open to openvt
Hello Vitezslav Crhonek, Gürkan Myczko sent the below forwarded message to fedora devel list in May 2017, but it seems there was no followup so I'm trying sending it directly to you as you seem to be the one who has been actively committing to the kbd package in fedora. In summary, some people would like to se "open" command be used for a different purpose than the current decades old compatibility link. Personally I think if/when the link is removed we should make sure it's not reused for anything for multiple releases/years to avoid confusion about it pointing to different things in different things in different distros. What do you think? Is it doable to drop it in Fedora? I'd be willing to drop it in Debian which should trickle down to all derived .deb based distros. Hopefully if you change Fedora the rest of the .rpm world will follow suite. This should make the change pretty universal I think and avoid deviating between different distros. Regards, Andreas Henriksson - Forwarded message from Gürkan Myczko - Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 14:00:52 +0200 From: Gürkan Myczko To: de...@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: 732...@bugs.debian.org Subject: Please remove the link from open to openvt User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.5 Hello, First, I have no relation to Fedora, but I write here because of this bug in Debian: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732796 Would you guys at Fedora feel like it's time to get rid of the symlink /bin/open to make space for xdg-open (for fdo fans) or gopen/openapp (for macOS, GNUstep fans). The name change was like 16 years ago. And I wasn't able to find anything still using /bin/open. Thanks, Myczko - End forwarded message -
Bug#732796: Please remove the link from open to openvt
Hello, First, I have no relation to Fedora, but I write here because of this bug in Debian: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732796 Would you guys at Fedora feel like it's time to get rid of the symlink /bin/open to make space for xdg-open (for fdo fans) or gopen/openapp (for macOS, GNUstep fans). The name change was like 16 years ago. And I wasn't able to find anything still using /bin/open. Thanks, Myczko
Bug#732796: Please remove the link from open to openvt
Hello! It seems (atleast) Fedora also links open -> openvt, see: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/kbd.git/tree/kbd.spec?id=d6e2ea33#n129 I think it would be a good idea to coordinate with other distributions to also get rid of the link at roughly the same time if we're going to do this. Regards, Andreas Henriksson
