Bug#746592: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#746592: Upgrade/backport mailman as package has been made unusable by DMARC

2014-07-07 Thread juichenieder-deb...@yahoo.co.uk
Hi Faidon,
Yes, my apologies, I should have worded my initial post clearer 

along the lines of what you have just written.  I still feel relatively
new to Debian, but getting there.

I don't seem to have received an email about your post, but luckily 

I checked back.  To move this along, I enclose information on the 

current status received from Thorsten to give you an idea of current 

status.

Many thanks, and hopefully one day I'll have the skills to do
something like this myself :).

Best,
Jack


PM From Thorsten Glaser 8 May:

I have no idea if Thijs has any
plans related to this. I have few time unfortunately, and
supporting broken services such as Yahoo’s is definitely not
on my priority list (in fact, my own mailserver blocks incoming
messages from them), although I may be able to allocate some
$dayjob time to it eventually. But that’ll take a while.

(In fact, there’s still more of our current “fork” of the
Debian mailman package that needs to be fed back into Debian,
*and* some issues with it to resolve. I really need to manage
to allocate some time towards working with mailman.)

Bug#746592: Upgrade/backport mailman as package has been made unusable by DMARC

2014-07-03 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Thu, May 01, 2014 at 07:21:27PM +0100, juichenieder-deb...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC

The way I see it, this bug report is for two different things:

1) Package a new upstream release. The current one is 2.1.18, a minor
update to 2.1.16 (released on October, 2013; followed by 2.1.17 in the
meantime) that unstable currently has. 

2.1.18 provides a better solution to the DMARC problem, a problem that
affects the vast majority of the mailman users running public mailing
lists (as they're bound to have e.g. Yahoo! subscribers) and is going to
affect even more of them as the time passes.

The package update seems trivial and the fact that it hasn't been
done since November 2013 (2.1.17 release date) suggests to me to that
the package is poorly maintained. Dear maintainer, have you thought
about RFHing the package? Would you be okay with me NMUing the package
outside the regular NMU rules to update to a new upstream release?

2) A backport of the current jessie version to wheezy-backports. As far
as I know, it's highly unusual for backport requests to be tracked in
the main BTS, but if the maintainer doesn't mind, I won't :)

Anyone can do the backport, as long the maintainer is okay with it. I'd
be happy to do it, but I'd like to see (1) done first as to not waste my
time with backporting an 9-month old piece of software.

Thanks,
Faidon


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Bug#746592: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#746592: Upgrade/backport mailman as package has been made unusable by DMARC

2014-05-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
severity 746592 important
thanks

On Thu, 1 May 2014, juichenieder-deb...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 The introduction of DMARC by certain email-clients has severely
 crippled the use of mailman, making the current version in wheezy,
 virtually unusable

Only for Yahoo users, certainly not “grave”.

bye,
//mirabilos
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Bug#746592: Upgrade/backport mailman as package has been made unusable by DMARC

2014-05-01 Thread juichenieder-deb...@yahoo.co.uk
Package: mailman
Version: 1:2.1.15-1
Severity: grave

The introduction of DMARC by certain email-clients has severely crippled the 
use of mailman, making the current version in wheezy, virtually unusablewith 
numerous accounts getting critical bounced with a single email.  See the 
following link for more information.

http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/DMARC

To solve this problem for users of debian-stable, I suggest adding a more 
recent version of mailman (as noted within the link) to backports, either:
a) 2.1.16-2 (the easiest as it already exists in jessie) or
b) 2.1.18 as this gives a better fix of the problem according to the above link.

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