Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 16. Mai 2014, 20:39:37 schrieb Mike Hommey:
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 01:34:38PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 16. Mai 2014, 20:22:09 schrieb Mike Hommey:
> > > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:38:46PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > Package: iceweasel
> > > > Version: 29.0.1-1
> > > > Severity: normal
> > > > Tags: upstream
> > > > 
> > > > Dear Maintainer,
> > > > 
> > > > Mozilla unfortunately chose to support external DRM plugins by an
> > > > opensource sandbox for EME/CDM plugins[1][2].
> > > > 
> > > > Please keep this open source sandbox code out of Iceweasel builds once
> > > > it
> > > > becomes available. As for reasons to do so please see [2][3].
> > > > 
> > > > Feel free to close the bug report with a statement of your intent to
> > > > do
> > > > so.
> > > > 
> > > > If its not possible to remove the code easily, please at least disable
> > > > it.
> > > 
> > > The code is not even in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/, which
> > > means it's more than 3 months away from possibly reaching unstable.
> > > 
> > > There is nothing to disable, nothing to remove, nothing to be seen
> > > regarding what it's going to be.
> > > 
> > > Please refrain from using the *Bug* tracking system for currently
> > > entirely hypothetical bugs.
> > 
> > Mozilla Foundation is about to introduce a new way to load proprietary and
> > potentially unsafe code within the browser.
> > 
> > To me thats a bug.
> > 
> > Thats why I open one with upstream as well[1].
> > 
> > Well, I will reopen this bug or open a new one should this code arrives
> > within Firefox.
> 
> BTW, have you filed a bug to remove the firmware loader from the linux
> kernel yet?

Care to elaborate how existing ways to include proprietary code within a 
system justify CDM/EME?

Added to that: I am definately interested in hardware free of proprietary 
firmware. But unlike hardware needing firmware, HTML5 DRM is avoidable. Easily.

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Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 16. Mai 2014, 13:42:01 schrieb Sylvestre Ledru:
> On 16/05/2014 13:34, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Mozilla Foundation is about to introduce a new way to load proprietary and
> > potentially unsafe code within the browser.
> 
> Like flash or the sun-java applet plugin ?

How do you come to the conclusion that these are *new* ways to load 
proprietary and potentially unsafe code within the browser? As far as I can 
think back these have been there.

And how do these long existing ways to do that justify adding a new way to do 
it – instead of getting rid of the old ways as soon as possible.

Aside from that Adobe Flash and Sun Java may at least be used for something 
non DRM related as well while EME / CDM is specifically targetted at DRM and 
thus closed code which my even be protected by laws which make put the work of 
security researchers at risk. Read the second link in my bug post.

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Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
On 16/05/2014 13:34, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

> Mozilla Foundation is about to introduce a new way to load proprietary and 
> potentially unsafe code within the browser.
Like flash or the sun-java applet plugin ?

Sylvestre


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Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 01:34:38PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag, 16. Mai 2014, 20:22:09 schrieb Mike Hommey:
> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:38:46PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Package: iceweasel
> > > Version: 29.0.1-1
> > > Severity: normal
> > > Tags: upstream
> > > 
> > > Dear Maintainer,
> > > 
> > > Mozilla unfortunately chose to support external DRM plugins by an
> > > opensource sandbox for EME/CDM plugins[1][2].
> > > 
> > > Please keep this open source sandbox code out of Iceweasel builds once it
> > > becomes available. As for reasons to do so please see [2][3].
> > > 
> > > Feel free to close the bug report with a statement of your intent to do
> > > so.
> > > 
> > > If its not possible to remove the code easily, please at least disable it.
> > 
> > The code is not even in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/, which
> > means it's more than 3 months away from possibly reaching unstable.
> > 
> > There is nothing to disable, nothing to remove, nothing to be seen
> > regarding what it's going to be.
> > 
> > Please refrain from using the *Bug* tracking system for currently
> > entirely hypothetical bugs.
> 
> Mozilla Foundation is about to introduce a new way to load proprietary and 
> potentially unsafe code within the browser.
> 
> To me thats a bug.
> 
> Thats why I open one with upstream as well[1].
> 
> Well, I will reopen this bug or open a new one should this code arrives 
> within 
> Firefox.

BTW, have you filed a bug to remove the firmware loader from the linux
kernel yet?

Mike


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Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 01:34:38PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag, 16. Mai 2014, 20:22:09 schrieb Mike Hommey:
> > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:38:46PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Package: iceweasel
> > > Version: 29.0.1-1
> > > Severity: normal
> > > Tags: upstream
> > > 
> > > Dear Maintainer,
> > > 
> > > Mozilla unfortunately chose to support external DRM plugins by an
> > > opensource sandbox for EME/CDM plugins[1][2].
> > > 
> > > Please keep this open source sandbox code out of Iceweasel builds once it
> > > becomes available. As for reasons to do so please see [2][3].
> > > 
> > > Feel free to close the bug report with a statement of your intent to do
> > > so.
> > > 
> > > If its not possible to remove the code easily, please at least disable it.
> > 
> > The code is not even in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/, which
> > means it's more than 3 months away from possibly reaching unstable.
> > 
> > There is nothing to disable, nothing to remove, nothing to be seen
> > regarding what it's going to be.
> > 
> > Please refrain from using the *Bug* tracking system for currently
> > entirely hypothetical bugs.
> 
> Mozilla Foundation is about to introduce a new way to load proprietary and 
> potentially unsafe code within the browser.
> 
> To me thats a bug.
> 
> Thats why I open one with upstream as well[1].
> 
> Well, I will reopen this bug or open a new one should this code arrives 
> within 
> Firefox.

And I will close it again then. Until you have something to say about an
iceweasel package that is in the Debian archive, please don't file a
bug. There are enough real bugs to deal with already.

Mike


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Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 16. Mai 2014, 20:22:09 schrieb Mike Hommey:
> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:38:46PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Package: iceweasel
> > Version: 29.0.1-1
> > Severity: normal
> > Tags: upstream
> > 
> > Dear Maintainer,
> > 
> > Mozilla unfortunately chose to support external DRM plugins by an
> > opensource sandbox for EME/CDM plugins[1][2].
> > 
> > Please keep this open source sandbox code out of Iceweasel builds once it
> > becomes available. As for reasons to do so please see [2][3].
> > 
> > Feel free to close the bug report with a statement of your intent to do
> > so.
> > 
> > If its not possible to remove the code easily, please at least disable it.
> 
> The code is not even in http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/, which
> means it's more than 3 months away from possibly reaching unstable.
> 
> There is nothing to disable, nothing to remove, nothing to be seen
> regarding what it's going to be.
> 
> Please refrain from using the *Bug* tracking system for currently
> entirely hypothetical bugs.

Mozilla Foundation is about to introduce a new way to load proprietary and 
potentially unsafe code within the browser.

To me thats a bug.

Thats why I open one with upstream as well[1].

Well, I will reopen this bug or open a new one should this code arrives within 
Firefox.


[1] Bug 1011459 - Please do not support EME, do not allow new proprietary CDM 
code in the browser 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1011459

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Bug#748342: iceweasel: please keep sandbox code for EME/CDM DRM plugins out of Iceweasel builds

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Package: iceweasel
Version: 29.0.1-1
Severity: normal
Tags: upstream

Dear Maintainer,

Mozilla unfortunately chose to support external DRM plugins by an opensource
sandbox for EME/CDM plugins[1][2].

Please keep this open source sandbox code out of Iceweasel builds once it
becomes available. As for reasons to do so please see [2][3].

Feel free to close the bug report with a statement of your intent to do so.

If its not possible to remove the code easily, please at least disable it.

Thank you very much,
Martin


[1] Mitchell Baker, DRM and the Challenge of Serving Users, 14th May 2014:
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/05/14/drm-and-the-challenge-of-serving-users/

[2] Cory Doctorow, Firefox’s adoption of closed-source DRM breaks my heart,
theguardian.com, Wednesday 14 May 2014 18.00 BST:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/14/firefox-closed-source-drm-video-browser-cory-doctorow

[3] FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital 
Restrictions Management
by Free Software Foundation — Published on May 14, 2014 05:23 PM:
http://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-condemns-partnership-between-mozilla-and-adobe-to-support-digital-restrictions-management

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