Bug#751241: [Pkg-amule-devel] Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Moritz Mühlenhoff]

On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 01:29:19PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Olly Betts  wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 03:37:45PM +0200, Werner Mahr wrote:
> >> There are just no new features to do, that would need a new release and for
> >> now it's more a state of waiting.
> >
> > A new release could fix bugs even if there are no features to do (the BTS
> > suggests there are a number of bugs).
> >
> > There's also updating it to work with newer releases of its dependencies
> > (not just wxWidgets, though that is a current case in point).
> 
> I'm trying a Git snapshot (from commit 1a369e47, currently HEAD) as
> just cherrypicking the commit that should fix compatibility with 3.0
> is entangled with previous commits. dunno how long it will take and/or
> if it will be successful, but no amule in next stable will be a shame
> :)

It's been a year, what's the status? Shall we go ahead with the removal
of amule from sid now?

Cheers,
Moritz

Bug#751241: [Pkg-amule-devel] Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Sandro Tosi]

> It's been a year, what's the status?

the status is that amule is not fully ported to wx3.0, that snapshot
fails to work correctly, and upstream is not rushing to migrate.

> Shall we go ahead with the removal
> of amule from sid now?

>From my POV is early/extreme.

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Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Olly Betts]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 03:37:45PM +0200, Werner Mahr wrote:
 There are just no new features to do, that would need a new release and for
 now it's more a state of waiting.

A new release could fix bugs even if there are no features to do (the BTS
suggests there are a number of bugs).

There's also updating it to work with newer releases of its dependencies
(not just wxWidgets, though that is a current case in point).

 I want to try wx-3.0 for several weeks now. Maybe in one or two, I find
 the time.

Any progress?

If you're stuck on a particular error message (either at build time or run
time), I might be able to assist.

Cheers,
Olly


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Bug#751241: [Pkg-amule-devel] Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Sandro Tosi]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Olly Betts o...@survex.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 03:37:45PM +0200, Werner Mahr wrote:
 There are just no new features to do, that would need a new release and for
 now it's more a state of waiting.

 A new release could fix bugs even if there are no features to do (the BTS
 suggests there are a number of bugs).

 There's also updating it to work with newer releases of its dependencies
 (not just wxWidgets, though that is a current case in point).

I'm trying a Git snapshot (from commit 1a369e47, currently HEAD) as
just cherrypicking the commit that should fix compatibility with 3.0
is entangled with previous commits. dunno how long it will take and/or
if it will be successful, but no amule in next stable will be a shame
:)

Regards,
Sandro


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Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Olly Betts]

Source: amule
Version: 2.3.1-11
Severity: important
Tags: sid jessie
User: freewx-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Usertags: wx3.0
Control: block 748169 by -1

Dear maintainer,

We're aiming to migrate the archive to using wxwidgets3.0 instead of
wxwidgets2.8, and intend to drop wxwidgets2.8 before jessie is released.

I've attempted to rebuild amule by updating the BD to libwxgtk3.0-dev
and wx3.0-i18n, but the build fails.  It looks like the major issue
is that it's not possible to include a wx header to get class
wxExecuteData defined.  I've reported that to wx upstream:

http://trac.wxwidgets.org/ticket/16325

If upstream don't come up with a fix quickly, we can probably just
install the required private header in the wx headers directory to work
around the problem.

I ran the build with debian/rules patched to use make -k, so as to
show all the compilation errors, and the only one not related to
wxExecuteData seems to be:

../../src/amuled.cpp:656:15: error: variable 'wxFFile ff' has initializer but 
incomplete type

That sounds like it's just missing including the right header.

While building without errors doesn't necessarily mean it will work,
this seems quite promising, aside from the wxExecuteData issue.

Do you know what plans amule upstream have for wx3.0 support?  I've
tried to check their website, but it just gives a page saying the
site is down due to server migration, with a link to the downloads
page, and another to a forum which is 404.

Cheers,
Olly


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Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Olly Betts]

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:46:49PM +1200, Olly Betts wrote:
 Do you know what plans amule upstream have for wx3.0 support?  I've
 tried to check their website, but it just gives a page saying the
 site is down due to server migration, with a link to the downloads
 page, and another to a forum which is 404.

I had a look in the wayback machine, and it's been like that since
September 2012!

https://web.archive.org/web/20120919013043/http://www.amule.org/

And the last release looks like it was made 2011-11-11 - the two
together make me wonder if amule is in fact dead upstream.

If so, is it worth trying to keep it in Debian?  To do so, you're
essentially going to need to take over the work upstream would
normally do...

Cheers,
Olly


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Bug#751241: [Pkg-amule-devel] Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Sandro Tosi]

Hello Olly,

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Olly Betts o...@survex.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:46:49PM +1200, Olly Betts wrote:
 Do you know what plans amule upstream have for wx3.0 support?  I've
 tried to check their website, but it just gives a page saying the
 site is down due to server migration, with a link to the downloads
 page, and another to a forum which is 404.

 I had a look in the wayback machine, and it's been like that since
 September 2012!

 https://web.archive.org/web/20120919013043/http://www.amule.org/

yeah I know, they simply suggest to go to a forum website to talk
about amule. I already made a lot of complains about that, even
proposed to migrate to Google Code volunteering for the migration -
but they just simply refuse any such help and ignore any complains
about a missing website for such a long time :(

 And the last release looks like it was made 2011-11-11 - the two
 together make me wonder if amule is in fact dead upstream.

well they are available thru such forum, but they don't seem to do
much development work there.

 If so, is it worth trying to keep it in Debian?  To do so, you're
 essentially going to need to take over the work upstream would
 normally do...

Amule - as is in Debian - works without any problem: it connects to
KAD and emule servers network, downloads/uploads correctly and so on,
so even if upstream is not present at teh moment the project per see
has still a lot of usefulness in Debian; but I don't plan to do any
development work on it, I'll just keep packaging it and maintain such
package - that's all. ah sure patches are welcome :D

Cheers,
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Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Werner Mahr]

Am Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2014, 00:06:27 schrieben Sie:
 
 And the last release looks like it was made 2011-11-11 - the two
 together make me wonder if amule is in fact dead upstream.

Dead is not the correct word. There is still a project-leader that claims to be 
working 
on the new site.

The forums at forumer are there for support with the existing release.

There are just no new features to do, that would need a new release and for now 
it's 
more a state of waiting. Everything the original emule can do, is supported, so 
the 
goal of the project is reached.

If emule decides for a way, how they can support IPv6, this will also go into 
amule, 
otherwise both projects will die.

 If so, is it worth trying to keep it in Debian?  To do so, you're
 essentially going to need to take over the work upstream would
 normally do...

I want to try wx-3.0 for several weeks now. Maybe in one or two, I find the 
time.

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MfG usw.

Werner Mahr

Bug#751241: amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0

[Luís Picciochi Oliveira]

Hi there,

Just to comment that the forum is accessible at http://amule.forumer.com/ .
The URL at amule.org points to an index.php file, which is what gives
the 404. Access the root address without that PHP file and you'll get
there. :-)


Regards,
Pitxyoki


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