Bug#752876: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-92-1_amd64.changes
Hi Roger, just to leave your quick and helpful reply not unanswered: I was hoping for faster processing to be able to answer your question whether further changes are needed. For the moment I just say thanks for your kind cooperation and I might (or hopefully might not) come back to you in case of further issues. Kind regards Andreas. On Sat, Apr 09, 2016 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Thorsten, > > would it be acceptable if I add this text to d/copyright? > > Kind regards > > Andreas. > > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote: > > Hi Andreas, > > > > I have added: > > > > /* > > This code is described in "Computational Geometry in C" (Second Edition), > > Chapter 8. It is not written to be comprehensible without the > > explanation in that book. > > > > Prints out one arm configuration to reach given target. > > Assumes number of links >= 3. > > Input: > >nlinks Number of links > >L1 L2 ... Ln Link lengths > >x0 y0target0 > >x1 x2target1 > >... > > > > Written by Joseph O'Rourke. > > Last modified: December 1997 > > Questions to orou...@cs.smith.edu. > > > > This code is Copyright 1998 by Joseph O'Rourke. It may be freely > > redistributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice is > > not removed. > > > > */ > > > > to spdep/src/soigraph.c (committed to R-forge, will be released when the > > next release occurs). This is the comment at the top of arm.c from: > > > > http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/CGCode/SecondEdition/Ccode2.tar.gz > > > > which is the author's code distribution site, and is more relevant than the > > printed text of the book. We've used the same approach in sp/src/pip.c for > > over ten years without attracting Debian's ire. > > > > Nicholas and I understood in 2001 that ... may be freely redistributed ... > > could reasonably be taken as permission to include and redistribute these > > small functions. > > > > Do you want me to revisit the separate packaging of data sets? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Roger > > > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Andreas Tille wrote: > > > > >Hi Roger, > > > > > >I hope you remember the discussion we had two years ago when I tried to > > >package spdep for Debian as a dependency to test some R epipdemiology > > >tools. I somehow gave up since the packages can be run with out spdep. > > >However, we have now some bioinformatics tools that have a strong > > >dependency and so we need to dive into this again. > > > > > >As you can read below the Debian ftpmaster has reviewed the source code > > >of spdep and found a weak part in the licensing. If you ask me this > > >issue is also relevant for distributing spdep code on CRAN but nobody > > >has stumbled upon this before. It would be great if you could clarify > > >the license of these pieces of code or replace it by some alternative > > >free code. > > > > > >Kind regards and thanks for your support > > > > > > Andreas. > > > > > >On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 04:49:37PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > > >>Hi Andreas, > > >> > > >>the issues about src/soigraph.c are not really solved. > > >> > > >>According to the file: > > >>* The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double > > >>* precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational > > >>* Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press > > >>* (1998), specifically from arm/arm.c. Copyright for those subroutines > > >>* remains his. > > >> > > >>As you can see, for example on Amazon, this book contains a paragraph: > > >> > > >>This book is in copyright. (...) no reproduction of any part may take > > >>place without the written permission of Cambridge University Press. > > >> > > >>From my point of view this does not look like that "This code may be > > >>freely redistributed" ... > > >> > > >> Thorsten > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >>debian-science-maintainers mailing list > > >>debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org > > >>http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-science-maintainers > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Roger Bivand > > Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics, > > Helleveien 30, N-5045 Bergen, Norway. > > voice: +47 55 95 93 55; fax +47 55 95 91 00 > > e-mail: roger.biv...@nhh.no > > http://orcid.org/-0003-2392-6140 > > https://scholar.google.no/citations?user=AWeghB0J=en > > http://depsy.org/person/434412 > > > > -- > http://fam-tille.de > > -- > debian-science-maintainers mailing list > debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-science-maintainers > -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#752876: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-92-1_amd64.changes
Hi Thorsten, would it be acceptable if I add this text to d/copyright? Kind regards Andreas. On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 06:52:24PM +0200, Roger Bivand wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > I have added: > > /* > This code is described in "Computational Geometry in C" (Second Edition), > Chapter 8. It is not written to be comprehensible without the > explanation in that book. > > Prints out one arm configuration to reach given target. > Assumes number of links >= 3. > Input: >nlinks Number of links >L1 L2 ... Ln Link lengths >x0 y0target0 >x1 x2target1 >... > > Written by Joseph O'Rourke. > Last modified: December 1997 > Questions to orou...@cs.smith.edu. > > This code is Copyright 1998 by Joseph O'Rourke. It may be freely > redistributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice is > not removed. > > */ > > to spdep/src/soigraph.c (committed to R-forge, will be released when the > next release occurs). This is the comment at the top of arm.c from: > > http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/CGCode/SecondEdition/Ccode2.tar.gz > > which is the author's code distribution site, and is more relevant than the > printed text of the book. We've used the same approach in sp/src/pip.c for > over ten years without attracting Debian's ire. > > Nicholas and I understood in 2001 that ... may be freely redistributed ... > could reasonably be taken as permission to include and redistribute these > small functions. > > Do you want me to revisit the separate packaging of data sets? > > Best wishes, > > Roger > > On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Andreas Tille wrote: > > >Hi Roger, > > > >I hope you remember the discussion we had two years ago when I tried to > >package spdep for Debian as a dependency to test some R epipdemiology > >tools. I somehow gave up since the packages can be run with out spdep. > >However, we have now some bioinformatics tools that have a strong > >dependency and so we need to dive into this again. > > > >As you can read below the Debian ftpmaster has reviewed the source code > >of spdep and found a weak part in the licensing. If you ask me this > >issue is also relevant for distributing spdep code on CRAN but nobody > >has stumbled upon this before. It would be great if you could clarify > >the license of these pieces of code or replace it by some alternative > >free code. > > > >Kind regards and thanks for your support > > > > Andreas. > > > >On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 04:49:37PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > >>Hi Andreas, > >> > >>the issues about src/soigraph.c are not really solved. > >> > >>According to the file: > >>* The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double > >>* precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational > >>* Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press > >>* (1998), specifically from arm/arm.c. Copyright for those subroutines > >>* remains his. > >> > >>As you can see, for example on Amazon, this book contains a paragraph: > >> > >>This book is in copyright. (...) no reproduction of any part may take > >>place without the written permission of Cambridge University Press. > >> > >>From my point of view this does not look like that "This code may be > >>freely redistributed" ... > >> > >> Thorsten > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>debian-science-maintainers mailing list > >>debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org > >>http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-science-maintainers > >> > > > > > > -- > Roger Bivand > Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics, > Helleveien 30, N-5045 Bergen, Norway. > voice: +47 55 95 93 55; fax +47 55 95 91 00 > e-mail: roger.biv...@nhh.no > http://orcid.org/-0003-2392-6140 > https://scholar.google.no/citations?user=AWeghB0J=en > http://depsy.org/person/434412 > -- http://fam-tille.de
Bug#752876: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-92-1_amd64.changes
Hi Andreas, I have added: /* This code is described in "Computational Geometry in C" (Second Edition), Chapter 8. It is not written to be comprehensible without the explanation in that book. Prints out one arm configuration to reach given target. Assumes number of links >= 3. Input: nlinks Number of links L1 L2 ... Ln Link lengths x0 y0target0 x1 x2target1 ... Written by Joseph O'Rourke. Last modified: December 1997 Questions to orou...@cs.smith.edu. This code is Copyright 1998 by Joseph O'Rourke. It may be freely redistributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice is not removed. */ to spdep/src/soigraph.c (committed to R-forge, will be released when the next release occurs). This is the comment at the top of arm.c from: http://cs.smith.edu/~orourke/CGCode/SecondEdition/Ccode2.tar.gz which is the author's code distribution site, and is more relevant than the printed text of the book. We've used the same approach in sp/src/pip.c for over ten years without attracting Debian's ire. Nicholas and I understood in 2001 that ... may be freely redistributed ... could reasonably be taken as permission to include and redistribute these small functions. Do you want me to revisit the separate packaging of data sets? Best wishes, Roger On Mon, 4 Apr 2016, Andreas Tille wrote: Hi Roger, I hope you remember the discussion we had two years ago when I tried to package spdep for Debian as a dependency to test some R epipdemiology tools. I somehow gave up since the packages can be run with out spdep. However, we have now some bioinformatics tools that have a strong dependency and so we need to dive into this again. As you can read below the Debian ftpmaster has reviewed the source code of spdep and found a weak part in the licensing. If you ask me this issue is also relevant for distributing spdep code on CRAN but nobody has stumbled upon this before. It would be great if you could clarify the license of these pieces of code or replace it by some alternative free code. Kind regards and thanks for your support Andreas. On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 04:49:37PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: Hi Andreas, the issues about src/soigraph.c are not really solved. According to the file: * The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double * precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational * Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press * (1998), specifically from arm/arm.c. Copyright for those subroutines * remains his. As you can see, for example on Amazon, this book contains a paragraph: This book is in copyright. (...) no reproduction of any part may take place without the written permission of Cambridge University Press. From my point of view this does not look like that "This code may be freely redistributed" ... Thorsten -- debian-science-maintainers mailing list debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-science-maintainers -- Roger Bivand Department of Economics, Norwegian School of Economics, Helleveien 30, N-5045 Bergen, Norway. voice: +47 55 95 93 55; fax +47 55 95 91 00 e-mail: roger.biv...@nhh.no http://orcid.org/-0003-2392-6140 https://scholar.google.no/citations?user=AWeghB0J=en http://depsy.org/person/434412
Bug#752876: Comments regarding r-cran-spdep_0.5-92-1_amd64.changes
Hi Roger, I hope you remember the discussion we had two years ago when I tried to package spdep for Debian as a dependency to test some R epipdemiology tools. I somehow gave up since the packages can be run with out spdep. However, we have now some bioinformatics tools that have a strong dependency and so we need to dive into this again. As you can read below the Debian ftpmaster has reviewed the source code of spdep and found a weak part in the licensing. If you ask me this issue is also relevant for distributing spdep code on CRAN but nobody has stumbled upon this before. It would be great if you could clarify the license of these pieces of code or replace it by some alternative free code. Kind regards and thanks for your support Andreas. On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 04:49:37PM +, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > the issues about src/soigraph.c are not really solved. > > According to the file: > * The subroutines TwoCirclesxx and SubVec are adapted for R and Double > * precision coordinates by Nicholas Lewin-Koh, from Computational > * Geometry in C, Joseph O'Rourke, Cambridge University Press > * (1998), specifically from arm/arm.c. Copyright for those subroutines > * remains his. > > As you can see, for example on Amazon, this book contains a paragraph: > > This book is in copyright. (...) no reproduction of any part may take > place without the written permission of Cambridge University Press. > > From my point of view this does not look like that "This code may be > freely redistributed" ... > > Thorsten > > > > > -- > debian-science-maintainers mailing list > debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-science-maintainers > -- http://fam-tille.de
