Bug#756103: systemd should be more forgiving of fstab errors
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 23:53:54, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 11.08.2014 23:35, schrieb Andrei POPESCU: I have been thinking about this incident since then and watching all the system doesn't boot due to fstab errors reports (I'm subscribed to both -user and -pkg-systemd-maintainers). I'm not sure it's a good idea to just fail the boot completely whenever there are errors like mine in fstab, but instead it would be much friendlier if systemd would try to bring up as much of the system as possible and start the emergency console only if e.g. / and /usr are missing. I already commented on that. I think it's wrong to just continue booting and starting potentially critical services. How is systemd supposed to know which file systems are vital? It can't, of course (nor should it), unless receiving enough information from the admin, but see below. You might have database on separate partitions and you might risk losing data if the services are started but the partitions aren't available. I understand these concerns, however: 1. it seems very brittle to me that a wrong fstab entry is capable of blocking the entire boot. This will be mitigated once emergency mode is fixed, but still won't be much comfort for headless systems. 2. sysv-rc would not stop either, so this would not be a regression Another possibility would be if admins could designate specific filesystems as critical for booting with a fstab parameter like 'bootwait', where systemd stops if that particular filesystem couldn't be mounted. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#756103: systemd should be more forgiving of fstab errors
Control: reopen -1 Control: severity -1 wishlist Control: retitle -1 systemd should be more forgiving of fstab errors On Sb, 26 iul 14, 18:54:01, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 26 iul 14, 17:29:21, Michael Biebl wrote: You simply have a typo here :-P udf,iso9660,user,noauto should be udf,iso9660 user,noauto note the space vs ',' Closing the bug as a misconfiguration issue. Oh, this is embarrassing, I just fixed that yesterday, because I didn't realise those don't belong together. Now I replaced the ',' with a tab so that I don't make this mistake again next time I look at my fstab before my first green tea cup. Sorry to have wasted your time :( Hi again, I have been thinking about this incident since then and watching all the system doesn't boot due to fstab errors reports (I'm subscribed to both -user and -pkg-systemd-maintainers). I'm not sure it's a good idea to just fail the boot completely whenever there are errors like mine in fstab, but instead it would be much friendlier if systemd would try to bring up as much of the system as possible and start the emergency console only if e.g. / and /usr are missing. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#756103: systemd should be more forgiving of fstab errors
Am 11.08.2014 23:35, schrieb Andrei POPESCU: I have been thinking about this incident since then and watching all the system doesn't boot due to fstab errors reports (I'm subscribed to both -user and -pkg-systemd-maintainers). I'm not sure it's a good idea to just fail the boot completely whenever there are errors like mine in fstab, but instead it would be much friendlier if systemd would try to bring up as much of the system as possible and start the emergency console only if e.g. / and /usr are missing. I already commented on that. I think it's wrong to just continue booting and starting potentially critical services. How is systemd supposed to know which file systems are vital? You might have database on separate partitions and you might risk losing data if the services are started but the partitions aren't available. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
