Bug#764122: [tex-live] Bug#764122: MnSymbol and new[tp]x shouldn't be in the texlive-fonts-extra ghetto

2014-10-10 Thread Karl Berry
Hi Juliusz,

What about mnsymbol?  It's a fairly small package, and is a simple,
hassle-free way to get a bunch of mathematical symbols that blend
relatively well with many common fonts

I guess I don't have any overwhelming argument against it, but it would
be nice if I had a note from at least one other user that moving it from
one collection to the other would be a practical benefit.

My general feeling is that for pretty much any package X in a
collection C, there is an argument that it should be in collection C2
instead.  So in self-defense, I try to be conservative in such moves.

Best,
Karl


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Bug#764122: [tex-live] Bug#764122: MnSymbol and new[tp]x shouldn't be in the texlive-fonts-extra ghetto

2014-10-10 Thread Reinhard Kotucha
On 2014-10-10 at 22:00:55 +, Karl Berry wrote:

  Hi Juliusz,
  
  What about mnsymbol?  It's a fairly small package, and is a
  simple, hassle-free way to get a bunch of mathematical symbols
  that blend relatively well with many common fonts
  
  I guess I don't have any overwhelming argument against it, but it
  would be nice if I had a note from at least one other user that
  moving it from one collection to the other would be a practical
  benefit.
  
  My general feeling is that for pretty much any package X in a
  collection C, there is an argument that it should be in collection
  C2 instead.  So in self-defense, I try to be conservative in such
  moves.

IMO mnsymbol should be part of the collection containing all the other
math symbol fonts.  Whether it should be in texlive-fonts-extra or
in texlive-fonts-recommended is another thing.  But all math symbol
fonts should be in one and the same collection.  Otherwise the concept
of collections doesn't make sense anymore.

Regards,
  Reinhard

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Bug#764122: [tex-live] Bug#764122: MnSymbol and new[tp]x shouldn't be in the texlive-fonts-extra ghetto

2014-10-09 Thread Philip Taylor
In 2014, 200MB is noise level.  I can see no reason whatsoever to factor
out some subset of this.

Philip Taylor


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Bug#764122: [tex-live] Bug#764122: MnSymbol and new[tp]x shouldn't be in the texlive-fonts-extra ghetto

2014-10-09 Thread Karl Berry
Do what you want in Debian, of course.  (Do you exactly 100% follow the
TL collection constituents now?)

For TL, I see that c-fontsrecommended has txfonts and pxfonts.  Perhaps
I should exchange those with the newtx and newpx in extra, but I'm not
sure.  I have a feeling that an awful lot of documents use the original
*xfonts and it would just create needless churn.  Michael (Sharpe), do
you have an opinion here?

I don't want to just randomly add things to c-fontsrecommended.

karl


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Bug#764122: [tex-live] Bug#764122: MnSymbol and new[tp]x shouldn't be in the texlive-fonts-extra ghetto

2014-10-09 Thread Norbert Preining
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014, Karl Berry wrote:
 Do what you want in Debian, of course.  (Do you exactly 100% follow the
 TL collection constituents now?)

Yes, we follow it 100% (besides leaving out a few packages that
are packaged separately).

 I don't want to just randomly add things to c-fontsrecommended.

I agree. Only if there is good reason.

Norbert


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