Bug#764982: Backports when the danger is contrib and non-free

2015-04-20 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 20-04-15 om 22:19 schreef Geert Stappers:
 Op 20-04-15 om 09:39 schreef Turbo Fredriksson:
 Besides, we had this exact argument for weeks (months) about contrib
 and non-free 'in the day'. Eventually, _that_ (amongst others) won
 the argument - it's not an official part of Debian GNU/Linux!
 
 I had a closer look at /etc/apt/sources.list of a recent installed machine.
 
 And sadly discovered that 'contrib' and 'non-free' were enabled ...

I have installed with RC1 and with RC2, but I cannot remember that I
have seen that!  Maybe you have used a nightly build? I am interested
who did this when you are correct.

Enabling non-free and contrib in sources.list is a very stupid idea
because Debian is about DFSG software and non-free is not DFSG, and
contrib needs non-DFSG software. I don't think this was a diskussion,
this was maybe somebody who don't know Debian. Or somebody who does not
care about free software, and wants to provocate a bit.

But backports main is DFSG software and an official part of Debian. Or
an official Debian service, like Turbo prefers.

With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.

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Bug#764982: Backports when the danger is contrib and non-free

2015-04-20 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 11:00:09PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 Op 20-04-15 om 22:19 schreef Geert Stappers:
  Op 20-04-15 om 09:39 schreef Turbo Fredriksson:
  Besides, we had this exact argument for weeks (months) about contrib
  and non-free 'in the day'. Eventually, _that_ (amongst others) won
  the argument - it's not an official part of Debian GNU/Linux!
  
  I had a closer look at /etc/apt/sources.list of a recent installed machine.
  
  And sadly discovered that 'contrib' and 'non-free' were enabled ...
 
 I have installed with RC1 and with RC2, but I cannot remember that I
 have seen that!  Maybe you have used a nightly build? I am interested
 who did this when you are correct.

I don't know how it happened.

Facts:
* /var/log/installer/lsb-release says 'build 20150324'
* the is from 2015-03-30


 Enabling non-free and contrib in sources.list is a very stupid idea
 because Debian is about DFSG software and non-free is not DFSG, and
 contrib needs non-DFSG software.



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Bug#764982: Backports when the danger is contrib and non-free

2015-04-20 Thread Geert Stappers
On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 09:39:41AM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
 On Apr 20, 2015, at 7:01 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
 
  I really don't think this is a good idea and I'm this close to
  re-close the bug report.
 
 
 Well, I asked a fair question I think. I knew the answer (but I could
 be wrong - I haven't been paying attention to Debian GNU/Linux matters
 in years): Is anything but main part of the official Debian GNU/Linux
 distribution?
 
 If not, it should not be enabled _by default_. Right?
 
 So I still think it can, and should, be closed.

Done.


 If not for all the other reasons, then that? There have, in any case,
 been numerous cases against enabling it, but NONE for enabling it. And
 no, I want it and I use it is NOT an opinion FOR it! :)


 Besides, we had this exact argument for weeks (months) about contrib
 and non-free 'in the day'. Eventually, _that_ (amongst others) won
 the argument - it's not an official part of Debian GNU/Linux!

I had a closer look at /etc/apt/sources.list of a recent installed machine.

And sadly discovered that 'contrib' and 'non-free' were enabled ...


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Geert Stappers
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