Bug#766928: closed by Scott Kitterman (Re: Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd)

2014-11-29 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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> > Am Mo den 27. Okt 2014 um 18:03 schrieb Ralf Jung:
> > > > Not really a k3b issue.  k3b needs udisks2 for reliable operation, so 
> adding 
> > > > the missing dependency is correct for k3b.  If there's an issue here, 
> then 
> > > > it's with udisk2's dependencies.  Reassigning.
> > > 
> > > It's also factually wrong, k3b can be installed without installing
> > > systemd. I can run the following on my system:
> > > 
> > > $ sudo aptitude -s install systemd-sysv- sysvinit-core systemd-shim k3b
> > > 
> > > which clearly shows that there's no hard dependency from k3b to
> > > systemd-sysv.
> > 
> > There is: k3b -> udisks2 -> libpam-systemd -> systemd
> > 
> > Hard dependency to systemd for no reason.
> > 
> > Please fix that issue. It is easy to fix as the dependency to udisks2 is
> > not needed (maybe lowering it to recommended).
> 
> Sigh.  No.  You aren't correct:
> 
> Package: libpam-systemd
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), 
> systemd 
> (= 215-7), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus, systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | systemd-
> sysv
> 
> Note the alternative depends on systemd-sysv.  If you install systemd-sysv 
> then there's no systemd pulled in.  Don't open the bug again.  This has 
> already been investigated and there's no systemd dependency.

You are not correct, sorry, I did not speak about the part at the end.
Let me highlight the relevant part:
Package: libpam-systemd
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.17), libcap2 (>= 1:2.10), libpam0g (>= 0.99.7.1), systemd 
(= 215-7), libpam-runtime (>= 1.0.1-6), dbus, systemd-shim (>= 8-2) | 
systemd-sysv
___^

(sorry for the overlong line.)

As you can see, the part at the end is totally useless as the package
depends for a full blown systemd.

Regards
   Klaus
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Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd

2014-11-28 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mo den 27. Okt 2014 um 18:03 schrieb Ralf Jung:
> > Not really a k3b issue.  k3b needs udisks2 for reliable operation, so 
> > adding 
> > the missing dependency is correct for k3b.  If there's an issue here, then 
> > it's with udisk2's dependencies.  Reassigning.
> 
> It's also factually wrong, k3b can be installed without installing
> systemd. I can run the following on my system:
> 
> $ sudo aptitude -s install systemd-sysv- sysvinit-core systemd-shim k3b
> 
> which clearly shows that there's no hard dependency from k3b to
> systemd-sysv.

There is: k3b -> udisks2 -> libpam-systemd -> systemd

Hard dependency to systemd for no reason.

Please fix that issue. It is easy to fix as the dependency to udisks2 is
not needed (maybe lowering it to recommended).

Regards
   Klaus
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Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd

2014-10-27 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Am Mo den 27. Okt 2014 um  5:08 schrieb Scott Kitterman:
> > Version 2.0.2-8 is uninstallable now as it pulls in the full systemd
> > that will never ever end on any of my systems.
> > 
> > Version 2.0.2-7.1 was fine.
> 
> Not really a k3b issue.  k3b needs udisks2 for reliable operation, so adding 
> the missing dependency is correct for k3b.

Well, it was never a dependency for me. k3b worked well without udisks2.
So I wonder a bit about that "dependency".

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Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd

2014-10-27 Thread Ralf Jung
Hi,

> > Version 2.0.2-8 is uninstallable now as it pulls in the full systemd
> > that will never ever end on any of my systems.
> > 
> > Version 2.0.2-7.1 was fine.
> 
> Not really a k3b issue.  k3b needs udisks2 for reliable operation, so adding 
> the missing dependency is correct for k3b.  If there's an issue here, then 
> it's with udisk2's dependencies.  Reassigning.

It's also factually wrong, k3b can be installed without installing
systemd. I can run the following on my system:

$ sudo aptitude -s install systemd-sysv- sysvinit-core systemd-shim k3b

which clearly shows that there's no hard dependency from k3b to
systemd-sysv.

Kind regards
Ralf


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Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd

2014-10-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:54:27 +0100 Klaus Ethgen  wrote:
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> Package: k3b
> Version: 2.0.2-8
> Severity: important
> 
> Version 2.0.2-8 is uninstallable now as it pulls in the full systemd
> that will never ever end on any of my systems.
> 
> Version 2.0.2-7.1 was fine.

Not really a k3b issue.  k3b needs udisks2 for reliable operation, so adding 
the missing dependency is correct for k3b.  If there's an issue here, then 
it's with udisk2's dependencies.  Reassigning.


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Bug#766928: Uninstallable as it depends on systemd

2014-10-26 Thread Klaus Ethgen
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Package: k3b
Version: 2.0.2-8
Severity: important

Version 2.0.2-8 is uninstallable now as it pulls in the full systemd
that will never ever end on any of my systems.

Version 2.0.2-7.1 was fine.

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