Bug#771183: Specific to gdm3

2016-11-25 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hi Andreas,

Thanks for looking at it.

I understand your point, but gnome-shell recommends gdm3 [1] not
depends.   Switching it to recommends in gnome-core (or just letting
gnome-shell bring it in) would be an improvement IMHO.

I did review some of the other similar desktop environment packages
and it seems there is no clear standard on on how to include the login
manager.

Thanks again,
Bryan

[1] https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome-shell

On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Andreas Henriksson  wrote:
> Control: tags -1 + wontfix
>
> Hello "cid " and Brian Quigley.
>
>
> cid wrote:
>> Gnome core sould be a minimal, core package that not blow up unnecesarry our 
>> system.
>
> No, gnome-core is a meta-package that's *not* supposed to be a minimal
> selection of components but one that matches what GNOME upstream defines
> as "GNOME Core Applications".
>
> If you want to have a meta-package that's what you define as minimal
> then feel free to create one! gnome-core is not it.
> (Also if you don't want to follow the gnome definition then maybe
> you're also better of not using the gnome trademark in the name of
> your meta-package either.)
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:44:58AM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
>> Hi Maintainer,
>>
>> The gdm3 dependency is a bit different than just including an application.
>> Could we move the gdm3 dependency to task-gnome-desktop? or to the
>> gnome metapackage?
>
> No, because gdm3 is really a core component and needs to be part
> of even a minimal gnome installation. For example gnome-shell depends
> on gdm3 to work correctly. Could something not including gnome-shell
> be called GNOME? I wouldn't. (But in the end it would be up to
> gnome upstream to enforce their trademark, so don't bother with what
> I think on the matter.)
>
> Regards,
> Andreas Henriksson



Bug#771183: Specific to gdm3

2016-11-18 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Control: tags -1 + wontfix

Hello "cid " and Brian Quigley.


cid wrote:
> Gnome core sould be a minimal, core package that not blow up unnecesarry our 
> system.

No, gnome-core is a meta-package that's *not* supposed to be a minimal
selection of components but one that matches what GNOME upstream defines
as "GNOME Core Applications".

If you want to have a meta-package that's what you define as minimal
then feel free to create one! gnome-core is not it.
(Also if you don't want to follow the gnome definition then maybe
you're also better of not using the gnome trademark in the name of
your meta-package either.)


On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:44:58AM -0500, Bryan Quigley wrote:
> Hi Maintainer,
> 
> The gdm3 dependency is a bit different than just including an application.
> Could we move the gdm3 dependency to task-gnome-desktop? or to the
> gnome metapackage?

No, because gdm3 is really a core component and needs to be part
of even a minimal gnome installation. For example gnome-shell depends
on gdm3 to work correctly. Could something not including gnome-shell
be called GNOME? I wouldn't. (But in the end it would be up to
gnome upstream to enforce their trademark, so don't bother with what
I think on the matter.)

Regards,
Andreas Henriksson



Bug#771183: Specific to gdm3

2016-11-18 Thread Bryan Quigley
Hi Maintainer,

The gdm3 dependency is a bit different than just including an application.
Could we move the gdm3 dependency to task-gnome-desktop? or to the
gnome metapackage?

Thank you