Bug#774603: [wishlist] support iana.org style redirects

2015-01-09 Thread Anand Kumria
Hi Marco,

The problem that I believe implementing this will solve is one of updates.

For example, today I wanted to check an entry in the .bar domain; I am
using a downstream distribution (in my case Linux Mint 17.1), and it has
whois 5.1.1

That version does not know that .bar is a domain, and where it should be
queried. That version is from Jan 2014, and you updated the file in Apr
2014 (
https://github.com/rfc1036/whois/commit/171705cbde06ef350f2e34ae76070a41a681c35f
).

It will probably be a year or more, until the first downstream (Ubuntu in
this case) and then the next downstream (Linux Mint) get an updated version
that does know about the domain.

Which is a shame, since you've put in a lot of time and effort maintaining
whois. A naive user would believe that the program is at fault.

If you implemented this new feature (checking whois.iana.org for
referrals), my immediate problem will not be solved but it will mean that
for future LTS distributions where updates are incorporated only after a
tedious amount of time then whois will "Just Work" with newly delegated
domains.

I still think you should consult your internal database first, just have
IANA's whois as a fallback.

Hope that clears up why I think this would be a nice-to-have feature.

Thanks,
Anand





On 5 January 2015 at 14:07, Marco d'Itri  wrote:

> On Jan 05, Anand Kumria  wrote:
>
> > The IANA whois server (whois.iana.org) will issue referrals to all known
> > domains, whether they are existing gTLDs, ccTLDs or the newer
> > (whois.nic.).
> I am not sure of which problem this would solve, can you elaborate?
> There is no point in using this as the default since my own database has
> an higher quality than the IANA one.
>
> --
> ciao,
> Marco
>


Bug#774603: [wishlist] support iana.org style redirects

2015-01-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 10, Anand Kumria  wrote:

> I still think you should consult your internal database first, just have
> IANA's whois as a fallback.
I am considering parsing the referral field, but as a design decision 
this program will never query a fallback server when it does not know 
about a specific resource.
So I am not sure that this would solve your problem.

Debian stable has regular backports (which can also be installed on 
oldstable), I suggest that you require the same quality from other 
vendors as well.

-- 
ciao,
Marco


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Bug#774603: [wishlist] support iana.org style redirects

2015-01-04 Thread Anand Kumria
Package: whois
Version: 5.1.1

Hi,

The IANA whois server (whois.iana.org) will issue referrals to all known
domains, whether they are existing gTLDs, ccTLDs or the newer
(whois.nic.).

However, like the DNS, it is not authoritative and simply issues redirects.

It would be nice if whois supported the redirection format -- roughly
".*refer: ([^ ])+$".

Thanks,
Anand


Bug#774603: [wishlist] support iana.org style redirects

2015-01-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 05, Anand Kumria  wrote:

> The IANA whois server (whois.iana.org) will issue referrals to all known
> domains, whether they are existing gTLDs, ccTLDs or the newer
> (whois.nic.).
I am not sure of which problem this would solve, can you elaborate?
There is no point in using this as the default since my own database has 
an higher quality than the IANA one.

-- 
ciao,
Marco


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