Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
On 2015-04-20 08:26, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le dimanche, 19 avril 2015, 20.17:27 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : >> Holger Wansing (2015-04-19): >>> The release-notes currently contain >>> >>> Graphical installer >>> >>> Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms. >>> Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if >>> the system has limited capabilities. >>> >>> AFAICS this is not true. >>> On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default. >>> >>> Remove that paragraph? >>> >>> debian-boot: please confirm the status. >> >> Indeed, that was one of the plans for Jessie but the patches only got >> pushed a few days ago (IIRC, Didier can correct me if needed), and it >> seems a dangerous or at least non-trivial change at this point. > > That's correct. We're talking about #485586, for which I only pushed > patches on 29. March (sorry for that…). The patches are mostly > reorganisation and reordering, but I agree with KiBi: the risks at this > point are too high. > > Cheers, OdyX > Ok, I have removed the paragraph about the graphical installer. Thanks, ~Niels -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
On 2015-04-19 21:23, Holger Wansing wrote: > Hi, > > Niels Thykier wrote: >> I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no >> one has replied me. I am a bit overbooked, so if any you have time to >> follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it. > > I have looked into this. Based on > http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/log/build/translation-status > I compared the files from "Sat, 06 Apr 2013 18:00:22 +" > (which is equivalent to Wheezy release) and "Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:11:00 +" > (this week). > If I leave out all languages that only changed the number of untranslated > strings, I get this: > > [...] > > So the new language in Jessie is: tg -> Tajik *applause* > > I have double-checked, Tajik is indeed not available in Wheezy installer, > but in Jessie. And it is available in both text and graphical installer > in Jessie. > > Based on that, I have prepared a patch against installing.dbk > (attached). > > > Holger > > Thanks, I have applied your patch as-is. ~Niels -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Le dimanche, 19 avril 2015, 20.17:27 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : > Holger Wansing (2015-04-19): > > The release-notes currently contain > > > > Graphical installer > > > > Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms. > > Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if > > the system has limited capabilities. > > > > AFAICS this is not true. > > On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default. > > > > Remove that paragraph? > > > > debian-boot: please confirm the status. > > Indeed, that was one of the plans for Jessie but the patches only got > pushed a few days ago (IIRC, Didier can correct me if needed), and it > seems a dangerous or at least non-trivial change at this point. That's correct. We're talking about #485586, for which I only pushed patches on 29. March (sorry for that…). The patches are mostly reorganisation and reordering, but I agree with KiBi: the risks at this point are too high. Cheers, OdyX -- OdyX signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Quoting Holger Wansing (li...@wansing-online.de): > I have double-checked, Tajik is indeed not available in Wheezy installer, > but in Jessie. And it is available in both text and graphical installer > in Jessie. By the way, Tajik is, IIRC, not 100% complete in the Jessie installer: Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel1/tg.po: 632 translated messages, 2 fuzzy translations, 11 untranslated messages. Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel2/tg.po: 525 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation, 1 untranslated message. Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel3/tg.po: 562 translated messages, 6 fuzzy translations, 14 untranslated messages. Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel4/tg.po: 237 translated messages. Charset is UTF-8. Stats: sublevel5/tg.po: 102 translated messages, 3 fuzzy translations, 3 untranslated messages. It's not that bad and anyway too late for Jessie, but if someone worked on the release notes for Tajik, (s)he might want to complete the D-I strings as well. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Hi, Niels Thykier wrote: > I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no > one has replied me. I am a bit overbooked, so if any you have time to > follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it. I have looked into this. Based on http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/log/build/translation-status I compared the files from "Sat, 06 Apr 2013 18:00:22 +" (which is equivalent to Wheezy release) and "Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:11:00 +" (this week). If I leave out all languages that only changed the number of untranslated strings, I get this: --- translation-status_wheezy_cleaned-out 2015-04-19 20:34:47.466571125 +0200 +++ translation-status_jessie_cleaned-out 2015-04-19 20:43:40.305213489 +0200 @@ -64,6 +64,7 @@ sv ta te +tg th tl tr So the new language in Jessie is: tg -> Tajik *applause* I have double-checked, Tajik is indeed not available in Wheezy installer, but in Jessie. And it is available in both text and graphical installer in Jessie. Based on that, I have prepared a patch against installing.dbk (attached). Holger -- Created with Sylpheed 3.2.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 7 . 0 W H E E Z Y ! Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/ --- installing.dbk 2015-04-17 23:56:31.649446980 +0200 +++ installing_workingcopy.dbk 2015-04-19 21:01:22.490480606 +0200 @@ -161,36 +161,26 @@ New languages - Thanks to the huge efforts of translators, &debian; can now be installed in 75 -languages, including English. This is two more languages than in &oldreleasename;. +languages, including English. This is one more language than in &oldreleasename;. Most languages are available in both the text-based installation user interface and the graphical user interface, while some are only available in the graphical user interface. -Languages added in this release include: +Languages added in this release: - -Welsh has been re-added to the graphical and -text-based installer (it had been removed in &oldreleasename;). - - - - - -Tibetan and Uyghur have been added to the graphical installer. +Tajik has been added to the graphical and text-based installer. - The languages that can only be selected using the graphical installer as their character sets cannot be presented in a non-graphical environment are: Amharic,
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Holger Wansing (2015-04-19): > The release-notes currently contain > > Graphical installer > > Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms. > Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if > the system has limited capabilities. > > AFAICS this is not true. > On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default. > > Remove that paragraph? > > debian-boot: please confirm the status. Indeed, that was one of the plans for Jessie but the patches only got pushed a few days ago (IIRC, Didier can correct me if needed), and it seems a dangerous or at least non-trivial change at this point. Maybe just comment it out to avoid removing translations if there are any? We'll try and get that done at the beginning of the Stretch release cycle. As a side note: I have failed to review the release notes at the moment, sorry about that; been otherwise busy already… Mraw, KiBi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Hi, Niels Thykier wrote: > On 2015-04-11 08:07, Baptiste Jammet wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Dixit Niels Thykier, le 16/03/2015 : > > > >> I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the > >> d-i related topics (as listed on [1]): > > > > Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i > > release announces. > > I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy. > > Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot > > some important changes. > > > > Baptiste > > > > P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511 > > > > Thanks, I have applied the patch mostly as-is (though dropping most of > the Wheezy-only items) and followed up with a new patch on top. The release-notes currently contain Graphical installer Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms. Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if the system has limited capabilities. AFAICS this is not true. On the RC3 i386 netinst CD the text installer is still the default. Remove that paragraph? debian-boot: please confirm the status. Holger -- Created with Sylpheed 3.2.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 7 . 0 W H E E Z Y ! Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
On 2015-04-11 08:07, Baptiste Jammet wrote: > Hello, > > Dixit Niels Thykier, le 16/03/2015 : > >> I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the >> d-i related topics (as listed on [1]): > > Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i > release announces. > I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy. > Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot > some important changes. > > Baptiste > > P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511 > Thanks, I have applied the patch mostly as-is (though dropping most of the Wheezy-only items) and followed up with a new patch on top. I tried to ask in #debian-i18n about the new languages, but so far no one has replied me. I am a bit overbooked, so if any you have time to follow on that, then I would greatly appreciate it. If there are further changes, please by all means let me know. Thanks, ~Niels -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Hi, Baptiste Jammet wrote: > > New ports > + > > > -Support for the 'armhf' and 's390x' architectures has been added to the > installer. > +Support for the 'arm64' and 'pp64el' architectures has been added to the > installer. has to be 'ppc64el' > > > Holger -- Created with Sylpheed 3.2.0 under D E B I A N L I N U X 7 . 0 W H E E Z Y ! Registered Linux User #311290 - https://linuxcounter.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Hello, Dixit Niels Thykier, le 16/03/2015 : >I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the >d-i related topics (as listed on [1]): Here are some items I think it's important to highlight, taken from d-i release announces. I tried to clean the page a bit and mark some old stuff as wheezy. Please review because I'm not a native english, and I surely forgot some important changes. Baptiste P.S. diff against installing.dbk r10511 --- installing.dbk 2014-12-14 19:10:38.058786385 +0100 +++ installing-bj.dbk 2015-04-04 14:33:04.231032879 +0200 @@ -53,36 +53,20 @@ release-notes authors should check webwml repo or http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -Sources (for wheezy): +Sources (for Jessie): -http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2012/20121122 (7.0 Beta4) -http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2013/20130217 (7.0 RC1) - -http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - -( - -http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce tends to be filled -shortly before the release, and renamed right afterwards. The time window for -its being interesting is like a few hours. - -) +https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140319 +https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20140813 +https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2014/20141005 +https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2015/20150126 +https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2015/20150327 --> @@ -100,15 +84,28 @@ + + +Removed ports + + +Support for the 'ia64' and 'sparc' architectures has been dropped from the installer since +they have been removed from the archive. + + + + New ports + -Support for the 'armhf' and 's390x' architectures has been added to the installer. +Support for the 'arm64' and 'pp64el' architectures has been added to the installer. + Software speech support @@ -122,6 +119,50 @@ + + +New default init system + + +The installation system now installs systemd as the default init system. + + + + + + +Desktop selection + + +Desktop can now be choosen within tasksel during the installation. Note that +several desktops can be selected at the same time, but some combinations of +desktops may not be co-installable. + + + + + +Replacing "--" by "---" for boot parameters + + +Due to a change on the linux kernel side, the "---" separator is now used instead +of the historical "--" one to separate kernel parameters from userland parameters. + + + + + + +Graphical installer + + +Graphical installer is now the default on supported platforms. +Text installer is still accessible from the very first menu, or if +the system has limited capabilities. + + + + New supported platforms @@ -172,9 +213,10 @@ New languages + -Thanks to the huge efforts of translators, &debian; can now be installed in 74 -languages, including English. This is three more languages than in &oldreleasename;. +Thanks to the huge efforts of translators, &debian; can now be installed in 75 +languages, including English. This is two more languages than in &oldreleasename;. Most languages are available in both the text-based installation user interface and the graphical user interface, while some are only available in the graphical user interface. @@ -185,12 +227,14 @@ + Welsh has been re-added to the graphical and text-based installer (it had been removed in &oldreleasename;). + Tibetan and Uyghur have been added to the graphical installer. @@ -198,7 +242,7 @@ - + The languages that can only be selected using the graphical installer as their character sets cannot be presented in a non-graphical environment are: Amharic, @@ -208,6 +252,7 @@ + Network configuration @@ -220,6 +265,7 @@ + Default filesystem @@ -234,6 +280,7 @@ + UEFI boot signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#780573: release-notes: Review from the d-i team
Package: release-notes Severity: normal Dear installer team, I am contacting you to do a final review of the release-notes for the d-i related topics (as listed on [1]): """ Check with d-i team for specials with this update (check esp. if old versions of d-i should be purged if new versions enter $suite's d-i area) """ Thanks, ~Niels [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ReleaseTeam/ReleaseCheckList -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
