Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-04-13 Thread Matthias Klose
On 04/13/2015 05:32 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
 That wasn't really the point.  The point was more about why not keep
 the existing patches untouched, but add a final diff that could
 possibly be reviewable.

 so you would feel better if I create my own diff to the current state of the
 branch, from the point where I stopped backporting patches?  How would you
 review these?
 
 Well, the diff between what's currently in testing and what might
 replace it is what the release team cares about, so yes that would be
 helpful.  Reviewing a rewrite is inherently more complex than
 reviewing a final incremental diff.

and preparing that is inherently more complex and error prone.  Feel free to do
that for any security upload. Feel free to close this issue then as an unblock
request.


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Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-04-12 Thread Matthias Klose
On 04/13/2015 03:55 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
 because upstream backport patches were done by component for the 2.25 branch,
 and don't have any equivalent to the single patches on the trunk.  Feel free 
 to
 prove me wrong.
 
 That wasn't really the point.  The point was more about why not keep
 the existing patches untouched, but add a final diff that could
 possibly be reviewable.

so you would feel better if I create my own diff to the current state of the
branch, from the point where I stopped backporting patches?  How would you
review these?

 Please resist the urge to count lines of the diff

 no, you couldn't resist :-/
 
 The size of course is important because as is it's basically an
 unreviewable change,

so these are all changes related to security issues raised by the security team.
 It is this size.  Could you explain how these can be made reviewable?  If you
look at the upstream commits, these are all done in sequence, so you can split
these into patches done for one component. But again, how would that make review
easier?

 which is why no one from the release team is
 looking at it, and why stands little chance for making it into jessie.

at least good to know that the release team isn't looking into it, although a
confirmation on their own would have been nice.

 Anyway it's not my call, I was just trying to help.

thanks, it is appreciated.

Matthias


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Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-04-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
 That wasn't really the point.  The point was more about why not keep
 the existing patches untouched, but add a final diff that could
 possibly be reviewable.

 so you would feel better if I create my own diff to the current state of the
 branch, from the point where I stopped backporting patches?  How would you
 review these?

Well, the diff between what's currently in testing and what might
replace it is what the release team cares about, so yes that would be
helpful.  Reviewing a rewrite is inherently more complex than
reviewing a final incremental diff.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-04-12 Thread Matthias Klose
On 04/13/2015 12:51 AM, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
  * Configure with --enable-deterministic-archives. Closes: #774429.
 
 #774429 is wishlist, so not appropriate at this point for jessie.
 
 --- binutils-2.25/debian/patches/series
 +++ binutils-2.25/debian/patches/series
 @@ -34,13 +34,3 @@
  pr17742.diff
 -pr17531-1.diff
 -pr17531-2.diff
 -pr17531-3.diff
 -pr17531-4.diff
 -pr17531-5.diff
 -pr17531-6.diff
 -# these need some real backports ...
 -#pr17531-7.diff
 -#pr17531-8.diff
 -#pr17531-9.diff
 -
 +pr17531.diff
 
 Why couldn't the changes be applied incrementally to the existing
 patches rather than an entirely new 15k line patch?

because upstream backport patches were done by component for the 2.25 branch,
and don't have any equivalent to the single patches on the trunk.  Feel free to
prove me wrong.

 Please resist the urge to count lines of the diff

no, you couldn't resist :-/  Please could you explain why it would make it
easier for you to have any additional patches done by myself, not verified, to
review on your own?

Matthias


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Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-04-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
 because upstream backport patches were done by component for the 2.25 branch,
 and don't have any equivalent to the single patches on the trunk.  Feel free 
 to
 prove me wrong.

That wasn't really the point.  The point was more about why not keep
the existing patches untouched, but add a final diff that could
possibly be reviewable.

 Please resist the urge to count lines of the diff

 no, you couldn't resist :-/

The size of course is important because as is it's basically an
unreviewable change, which is why no one from the release team is
looking at it, and why stands little chance for making it into jessie.

Anyway it's not my call, I was just trying to help.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-04-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Matthias Klose wrote:
  * Configure with --enable-deterministic-archives. Closes: #774429.

#774429 is wishlist, so not appropriate at this point for jessie.

 --- binutils-2.25/debian/patches/series
 +++ binutils-2.25/debian/patches/series
 @@ -34,13 +34,3 @@
  pr17742.diff
 -pr17531-1.diff
 -pr17531-2.diff
 -pr17531-3.diff
 -pr17531-4.diff
 -pr17531-5.diff
 -pr17531-6.diff
 -# these need some real backports ...
 -#pr17531-7.diff
 -#pr17531-8.diff
 -#pr17531-9.diff
 -
 +pr17531.diff

Why couldn't the changes be applied incrementally to the existing
patches rather than an entirely new 15k line patch?

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#781292: unblock: binutils/2.25-6

2015-03-26 Thread Matthias Klose
package: release.debian.org
user: release.debian@packages.debian.org
usertags: unblock
severity: high

binutils/2.25-6 should be unblocked. backporting the security related fixes for
PR binutils/17512, PR binutils/17531. Afaics no regressions in the binutils
testsuite.

Please resist the urge to count lines of the diff.


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