Bug#786247: pyvtk: deprecation of python-support

2015-08-09 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On August 8, 2015 10:13:04 AM Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
 [Steve M. Robbins, 2015-08-08]
 
   I went looking for the most recent sources and found out that you
  
  can easily get pyvtk via pip.
 
 `sudo pip install ...` is the same as `rm -rf /` to me.

I see.

 Please don't suggest it! 

In my defense: I did not say you need to use sudo.  All you need (at least 
for pyvtk) is privilege to write into /usr/local, so it is more like rm -rf 
/usr/local ... still damaging but not as dramatic.  :-)


 If you don't want to maintain it, report RFA or O
 bug or simply remove it from the archive, but never ever suggest users
 to use pip for installing system libs/apps. I had to clean after these
 tools way too many times! pip is great when used inside virtualenv or
 tools like this, but should return please use rpm/dpkg whenever
 invoked as root, period!

Thanks.  I had read Paul Tagliamonte's essay [1] and wondered whether I'd get 
this kind of response.  :-)   I won't wade into the debate.

[1] http://notes.pault.ag/debian-python/

Best,
-Steve

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Bug#786247: pyvtk: deprecation of python-support

2015-08-08 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 06:36:33PM +0200, dktrkr...@debian.org wrote:
 Source: pyvtk
 Version: 0.4.74-3

I haven't uploaded pyvtk since 2011.  So while looking to fix this
bug, I went looking for the most recent sources and found out that you
can easily get pyvtk via pip.

Since I don't use pyvtk anymore, it occurred to me to simply remove
the .deb package and assume folks will use pip.  What does
debian-python say to that idea?

Thanks,
-Steve


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Bug#786247: pyvtk: deprecation of python-support

2015-08-08 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Steve M. Robbins, 2015-08-08]
  I went looking for the most recent sources and found out that you
 can easily get pyvtk via pip.

`sudo pip install ...` is the same as `rm -rf /` to me.

Please don't suggest it! If you don't want to maintain it, report RFA or O 
bug or simply remove it from the archive, but never ever suggest users
to use pip for installing system libs/apps. I had to clean after these
tools way too many times! pip is great when used inside virtualenv or
tools like this, but should return please use rpm/dpkg whenever
invoked as root, period!
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