Bug#797340: choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

2018-08-02 Thread Chris Lamb
retitle 797340 choose-mirror: use deb.debian.org by default
thanks

> choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

s/httpredir/deb/   \o/


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Bug#797340: choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

2015-08-30 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> I have seen issues with this. It might be good for the general case of
> apt where you see what the failure is and can retry if needed. But in
> the US it caused me some aborted installations because there was some
> mirror in the rotation that was broken. debian-installer - I guess in
> this case debootstrap - does not retry a broken file. (apt also doesn't
> do that but it's harder to figure out in d-i what's going on.)

I helped improve this problem a couple years ago [0].  I guess that's
not totally solved, or maybe httpredir causes different behavior.
That is not something I've yet looked at, but I should.

debootstrap's current design is to retry package downloads up to 10
times, and then give up entirely on bootstrapping.  That seems like it
should be robust, but maybe not.

Relatedly apt < 1.1~exp9 will often run into problems with httpredir
as source, so it is you could have run into that once past
debootstrap.

Best wishes,
Mike

[0] https://bugs.debian.org/618920



Bug#797340: choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

2015-08-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Control: tag -1 wontfix

Philipp Kern  (2015-08-30):
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 01:05:07PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> > This article [0] had some extensive complaints about Debian, one of
> > which is that the installer has too many screens (apparently 20 in
> > their case).
> > 
> > Setting a default mirror without user intervention would nicely save 3
> > of those steps, and httpredir.debian.org is in many ways the ideal
> > mirror selection anyway.
> 
> I have seen issues with this. It might be good for the general case of
> apt where you see what the failure is and can retry if needed. But in
> the US it caused me some aborted installations because there was some
> mirror in the rotation that was broken. debian-installer - I guess in
> this case debootstrap - does not retry a broken file. (apt also doesn't
> do that but it's harder to figure out in d-i what's going on.)

Yeah. I'm not convinced switching is sensible, and even if it were,
now seems way premature. Tagging wontfix for now.

Mraw,
KiBi.


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Bug#797340: choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

2015-08-30 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 01:05:07PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote:
> This article [0] had some extensive complaints about Debian, one of
> which is that the installer has too many screens (apparently 20 in
> their case).
> 
> Setting a default mirror without user intervention would nicely save 3
> of those steps, and httpredir.debian.org is in many ways the ideal
> mirror selection anyway.

I have seen issues with this. It might be good for the general case of
apt where you see what the failure is and can retry if needed. But in
the US it caused me some aborted installations because there was some
mirror in the rotation that was broken. debian-installer - I guess in
this case debootstrap - does not retry a broken file. (apt also doesn't
do that but it's harder to figure out in d-i what's going on.)

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Bug#797340: choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

2015-08-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 01:05:07PM -0400, Michael Gilbert a écrit :
> 
> Setting a default mirror without user intervention would nicely save 3
> of those steps, and httpredir.debian.org is in many ways the ideal
> mirror selection anyway.

Hi Michael,

httpredir.debian.org is a great idea, and is already used on some official
Debian for the Cloud, but unfortunately, it is still not accurate for Japan.

===
 Your details, as seen by the redirector:
IP: 122.249.122.82
AS: 4685
Continent: AS
Country: JP
Region: 40
City: Tokyo

Had you requested a file to /debian/, you would have been sent to one of the 
following mirrors:

http://ftp.kr.debian.org/debian/
===

Have a nice day,

-- 
Charles Plessy
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan



Bug#797340: choose-mirror: use httpredir.debian.org by default

2015-08-29 Thread Michael Gilbert
package: choose-mirror
severity: wishlist
version: 2.65

This article [0] had some extensive complaints about Debian, one of
which is that the installer has too many screens (apparently 20 in
their case).

Setting a default mirror without user intervention would nicely save 3
of those steps, and httpredir.debian.org is in many ways the ideal
mirror selection anyway.

Obviously expert mode would want to retain the full 3 screen mirror
selection process.

Best wishes,
Mike

[0]http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/06/3-ways-to-improve-debian-and-i-havent.html