Bug#833268: closed by Holger Wansing (task-lxde-desktop: LXDE desktop does not include a web browser)

2018-10-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland

On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 09:37:28PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

Ah wait, the bug title says it all:
"LXDE desktop does not include a web browser."

So I understood it all correctly? The problem in the title is indeed fixed.



That's not an accurate summary of the problem. If I were to try and
summarize it as succinctly as possible, it would be

   "LXDE desktop include an icon to launch a graphical web browser,
   but does not depend upon one."

And that's still the situation since the virtual package www-browser ≠ a
graphical one, since it can be satisfied by w3m or links and others.

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Bug#833268: closed by Holger Wansing (task-lxde-desktop: LXDE desktop does not include a web browser)

2018-10-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland

On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 09:06:39PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote:

Sorry, but you mix-up several problems into one bugreport, which are all
completely unrelated to the tasksel package. There is nothing that can
be done against all this in tasksel.
So there need to be other packages to be found, to file this against.


I agree, src:tasksel is not where this should be filed or fixed.
Whichever LXDE package ships the actual shortcut icon to launch
x-www-browser would be the culprit package. I'm no more an LXDE
packaging expert now than I was when I filed this, two years ago,
but I will make another effort to find a more appropriate package
and reassign.


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Bug#833268: closed by Holger Wansing (task-lxde-desktop: LXDE desktop does not include a web browser)

2018-10-01 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

Holger Wansing  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Jonathan Dowland  wrote:
> > reopen 833268
> > found 833268 3.39
> > thanks
> > 
> > Hi Holger,
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 07:03:09PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> > >Jonathan Dowland  wrote:
> > >> The resulting desktop does not have a graphical web browser installed.
> > >> www-browser is being provided by w3m. Clicking on the web browser in
> > >> LXDE results in a pop-up
> > >>
> > >>  "invalid desktop entry file: 
> > >> '/usr/share/applications/lxde-x-www-browser.desktop'
> > >
> > >This has been fixed in the meantime, lxde now recommends
> > >firefox-esr | firefox | www-browser, and recommends are installed by 
> > >default.
> > >
> > >So closing this bug.
> > 
> > Thanks for taking a look at this but you have misunderstood the bug
> > report. 
> 
> Maybe I tried to understand it as a bug against tasksel?

Ah wait, the bug title says it all:
"LXDE desktop does not include a web browser."

So I understood it all correctly? The problem in the title is indeed fixed.


Holger


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Bug#833268: closed by Holger Wansing (task-lxde-desktop: LXDE desktop does not include a web browser)

2018-10-01 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

Jonathan Dowland  wrote:
> reopen 833268
> found 833268 3.39
> thanks
> 
> Hi Holger,
> 
> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 07:03:09PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
> >Jonathan Dowland  wrote:
> >> The resulting desktop does not have a graphical web browser installed.
> >> www-browser is being provided by w3m. Clicking on the web browser in
> >> LXDE results in a pop-up
> >>
> >>"invalid desktop entry file: 
> >> '/usr/share/applications/lxde-x-www-browser.desktop'
> >
> >This has been fixed in the meantime, lxde now recommends
> >firefox-esr | firefox | www-browser, and recommends are installed by default.
> >
> >So closing this bug.
> 
> Thanks for taking a look at this but you have misunderstood the bug
> report. 

Maybe I tried to understand it as a bug against tasksel?

> www-browser was satisfied at the time, by w3m, which does not
> provide x-www-browser (and there's no assertion anywhere that Provides:
> www-browser means ships an alternative for x-www-browser)
> 
> The problem is there doesn't seem to be something like "x-www-browser"
> virtual package name corresponding to the alternatives name. Chromium,
> firefox, firefox-esr and epiphany provide "gnome-www-browser" which is
> close, but obviously excludes (e.g.) konqueror, which merely provides
> "info-browser, man-browser, www-browser".
> 
> The proper fix here, distribution wide, is to rationalise the virtual
> package names for GUI browser packages. (A starting point might be to
> post about the issue to -desktop, and I might do that.)
> 
> But for LXDE, the issue would also not occur if taskbar icons
> configured to point at not-existent .desktop URIs were not drawn or
> de-configured on session start-up.

Sorry, but you mix-up several problems into one bugreport, which are all
completely unrelated to the tasksel package. There is nothing that can
be done against all this in tasksel.
So there need to be other packages to be found, to file this against.


Holger


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Bug#833268: closed by Holger Wansing (task-lxde-desktop: LXDE desktop does not include a web browser)

2018-10-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland

reopen 833268
found 833268 3.39
thanks

Hi Holger,

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 07:03:09PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:

Jonathan Dowland  wrote:

The resulting desktop does not have a graphical web browser installed.
www-browser is being provided by w3m. Clicking on the web browser in
LXDE results in a pop-up

"invalid desktop entry file: 
'/usr/share/applications/lxde-x-www-browser.desktop'


This has been fixed in the meantime, lxde now recommends
firefox-esr | firefox | www-browser, and recommends are installed by default.

So closing this bug.


Thanks for taking a look at this but you have misunderstood the bug
report. www-browser was satisfied at the time, by w3m, which does not
provide x-www-browser (and there's no assertion anywhere that Provides:
www-browser means ships an alternative for x-www-browser)

The problem is there doesn't seem to be something like "x-www-browser"
virtual package name corresponding to the alternatives name. Chromium,
firefox, firefox-esr and epiphany provide "gnome-www-browser" which is
close, but obviously excludes (e.g.) konqueror, which merely provides
"info-browser, man-browser, www-browser".

The proper fix here, distribution wide, is to rationalise the virtual
package names for GUI browser packages. (A starting point might be to
post about the issue to -desktop, and I might do that.)

But for LXDE, the issue would also not occur if taskbar icons
configured to point at not-existent .desktop URIs were not drawn or
de-configured on session start-up.


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