Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Margarita Manterola]

El Domingo, Octubre 23, 2016 14:32 CEST, Stephen Allen 
 Ha escrito:
> > Stephen, could it be that you had nemo-autostart as part of 
> > /etc/xdg/autostart?
> > Or that you had added it to your local ~/.config/autostart directory?
> Don't think so Marga, see attached screengrab. This started happening
> only recently.

Are you still able to reproduce this problem when you log out and back in?
If so, can you check if nemo is started as "nemo" or "nemo -n" ?
Can you also check in the tree of processes which process is the parent of nemo?
(I guess if you can paste / show a screengrab of the relevant ps fax,
that would be enough).

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Thanks,
Marga

Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Stephen Allen]

On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 12:18:11PM +, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Maxy and I have been trying to reproduce this problem using nemo and nautilus
> both from unstable and stable and we have not been able to reproduce this.
> 
> The nemo-autostart.desktop file is only installed in /usr/share/applications.
> In cinnamon, it's started as part of cinnamon session, but given that it's 
> not part
> of /etc/xdg/autostart, it shouldn't get autostarted by default.
> 
> Stephen, could it be that you had nemo-autostart as part of 
> /etc/xdg/autostart?
> Or that you had added it to your local ~/.config/autostart directory?

Don't think so Marga, see attached screengrab. This started happening
only recently.

Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Margarita Manterola]

Hi!

Maxy and I have been trying to reproduce this problem using nemo and nautilus
both from unstable and stable and we have not been able to reproduce this.

The nemo-autostart.desktop file is only installed in /usr/share/applications.
In cinnamon, it's started as part of cinnamon session, but given that it's not 
part
of /etc/xdg/autostart, it shouldn't get autostarted by default.

Stephen, could it be that you had nemo-autostart as part of /etc/xdg/autostart?
Or that you had added it to your local ~/.config/autostart directory?

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Regards,
Marga

Bug#841251: [pkg-cinnamon] Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Maximiliano Curia]

¡Hola Michael!

El 2016-10-19 a las 17:52 +0200, Michael Biebl escribió:
Control: reassign -1 nemo 
Control: retitle -1 nemo should not be started under GNOME


Am 19.10.2016 um 17:50 schrieb Michael Biebl:

[ please always CC the bug report ]
Am 19.10.2016 um 17:27 schrieb Stephen Allen:

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 03:00:18AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:

Am 19.10.2016 um 01:52 schrieb Stephen Allen:
Package: gdm3 
Version: 3.22.1-1 
Severity: important


Dear Maintainer,

Hello.

I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using 
GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are 
activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons. 
Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.


Why is this bug filed against gdm3? 
Sounds like a bug in nemo if it wants to manage a GNOME session.


OK If I'm calling Gnome, wouldn't it be gnome-session that calls Nemo 
when starting Gnome-Shell?


for a gnome session, gnome-session will run what's defined in 
/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome.session, i.e. 
RequiredComponents=org.gnome.Shell;gnome-settings-daemon;


And then it will start all applications from /etc/xdg/autostart and 
/usr/share/gnome/autostart/.


So no, gnome-session doesn't start nemo directly unless it was asked so 
by nemo, in which case this would be a bug in nemo, I guess.


But I have no idea how nemo is started, tbh, which is why I think you 
need to talk to the nemo maintainers.


I'm going to reassign this bug report. The nemo maintainers should be 
able to diagnose why nemo is autostarted and if that is something which 
it shouldn't do.


Nemo includes an /usr/share/applications/nemo-autostart.desktop file with:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=Nemo
Comment=Start Nemo desktop at log in
Exec=nemo -n
OnlyShowIn=X-Cinnamon;
AutostartCondition=GSettings org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons
NoDisplay=true

I would expect the OnlyShowIn=X-Cinnamon to prevent it to be started in GNOME.
If that's not the case then, do you know of a way to avoid this (even in the 
case of enabling show-desktop-icons for nemo and nautilus)?


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Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Stephen Allen]

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 06:20:07PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>  Am 19.10.2016 um 01:52 schrieb Stephen Allen:
> 
> > I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using
> > GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are
> > activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons.
> > Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.
> 
> 
> Btw, are you sure you were starting a GNOME session?
> GNOME by default does no longer draw any icons on the desktop.

Correct, I enabled icons via Gnome-Tweak-Tool. Thank-you for reassigning
to the Cinnamon Team.

So, yes I'm sure Yours Truly is running Gnome. :-)

Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Michael Biebl]

 Am 19.10.2016 um 01:52 schrieb Stephen Allen:

> I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using
> GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are
> activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons.
> Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.


Btw, are you sure you were starting a GNOME session?
GNOME by default does no longer draw any icons on the desktop.


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Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Michael Biebl]

[ please always CC the bug report ]
Am 19.10.2016 um 17:27 schrieb Stephen Allen:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 03:00:18AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Am 19.10.2016 um 01:52 schrieb Stephen Allen:
>>> Package: gdm3
>>> Version: 3.22.1-1
>>> Severity: important
>>>
>>> Dear Maintainer,
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using
>>> GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are
>>> activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons.
>>> Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.
>>
>> Why is this bug filed against gdm3?
>> Sounds like a bug in nemo if it wants to manage a GNOME session.
> 
> OK If I'm calling Gnome, wouldn't it be gnome-session that calls Nemo
> when starting Gnome-Shell?

for a gnome session, gnome-session will run what's defined in
/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome.session, i.e.
RequiredComponents=org.gnome.Shell;gnome-settings-daemon;

And then it will start all applications from /etc/xdg/autostart and
/usr/share/gnome/autostart/.

So no, gnome-session doesn't start nemo directly unless it was asked so
by nemo, in which case this would be a bug in nemo, I guess.

But I have no idea how nemo is started, tbh, which is why I think you
need to talk to the nemo maintainers.


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Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Michael Biebl]

Control: reassign -1 nemo
Control: retitle -1 nemo should not be started under GNOME

Am 19.10.2016 um 17:50 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> [ please always CC the bug report ]
> Am 19.10.2016 um 17:27 schrieb Stephen Allen:
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 03:00:18AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>>> Am 19.10.2016 um 01:52 schrieb Stephen Allen:
 Package: gdm3
 Version: 3.22.1-1
 Severity: important

 Dear Maintainer,

 Hello.

 I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using
 GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are
 activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons.
 Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.
>>>
>>> Why is this bug filed against gdm3?
>>> Sounds like a bug in nemo if it wants to manage a GNOME session.
>>
>> OK If I'm calling Gnome, wouldn't it be gnome-session that calls Nemo
>> when starting Gnome-Shell?
> 
> for a gnome session, gnome-session will run what's defined in
> /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gnome.session, i.e.
> RequiredComponents=org.gnome.Shell;gnome-settings-daemon;
> 
> And then it will start all applications from /etc/xdg/autostart and
> /usr/share/gnome/autostart/.
> 
> So no, gnome-session doesn't start nemo directly unless it was asked so
> by nemo, in which case this would be a bug in nemo, I guess.
> 
> But I have no idea how nemo is started, tbh, which is why I think you
> need to talk to the nemo maintainers.

I'm going to reassign this bug report. The nemo maintainers should be
able to diagnose why nemo is autostarted and if that is something which
it shouldn't do.


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Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Michael Biebl]

Am 19.10.2016 um 01:52 schrieb Stephen Allen:
> Package: gdm3
> Version: 3.22.1-1
> Severity: important
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using
> GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are
> activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons.
> Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.

Why is this bug filed against gdm3?
Sounds like a bug in nemo if it wants to manage a GNOME session.


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Bug#841251: gdm3: Both Nautilas & Nemo Want to Manage Desktop

[Stephen Allen]

Package: gdm3
Version: 3.22.1-1
Severity: important

Dear Maintainer,

Hello.

I have both Gnome 3.22.x and Cinnamon installed. When logging in using
GDM3 with Gnome specifically enabled, both Nautilas and Nemo are
activated to manage my desktop, resulting in double overlapping icons.
Once I forcequit Nemo, all is well.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.7.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/6 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_CA.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages gdm3 depends on:
ii  accountsservice  0.6.40-3
ii  adduser  3.115
ii  cinnamon [x-window-manager]  3.0.7-2
ii  cinnamon-session [x-session-manager] 3.0.1-2
ii  dconf-cli0.26.0-2
ii  dconf-gsettings-backend  0.26.0-2
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]1.5.59
ii  e17 [x-window-manager]   0.17.6-1.1
ii  gir1.2-gdm-1.0   3.22.1-1
ii  gnome-session [x-session-manager]3.22.1-1
ii  gnome-session-bin3.22.1-1
ii  gnome-session-flashback [x-session-manager]  3.22.0-2
ii  gnome-settings-daemon3.22.1-1
ii  gnome-shell  3.22.1-1
ii  gnome-terminal [x-terminal-emulator] 3.22.0-3
ii  gsettings-desktop-schemas3.22.0-1
ii  libaccountsservice0  0.6.40-3
ii  libaudit11:2.6.7-1
ii  libc62.24-4
ii  libcanberra-gtk3-0   0.30-3
ii  libcanberra0 0.30-3
ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0   2.36.0-1
ii  libgdm1  3.22.1-1
ii  libglib2.0-0 2.50.1-1
ii  libglib2.0-bin   2.50.1-1
ii  libgtk-3-0   3.22.1-1
ii  libkeyutils1 1.5.9-9
ii  libpam-modules   1.1.8-3.3
ii  libpam-runtime   1.1.8-3.3
ii  libpam-systemd   231-9
ii  libpam0g 1.1.8-3.3
ii  librsvg2-common  2.40.16-1
ii  libselinux1  2.5-3
ii  libsystemd0  231-9
ii  libwrap0 7.6.q-25
ii  libx11-6 2:1.6.3-1
ii  libxau6  1:1.0.8-1
ii  libxdmcp61:1.1.2-1.1
ii  lsb-base 9.20161016
ii  metacity [x-window-manager]  1:3.22.0-1
ii  muffin [x-window-manager]3.0.5-2
ii  mutter [x-window-manager]3.22.1-2
ii  policykit-1  0.105-16
ii  ucf  3.0036
ii  x11-common   1:7.7+16
ii  x11-xserver-utils7.7+7
ii  xterm [x-terminal-emulator]  327-1

Versions of packages gdm3 recommends:
ii  at-spi2-core2.22.0-1
ii  desktop-base8.0.2
ii  x11-xkb-utils   7.7+3
ii  xserver-xephyr  2:1.18.4-2
ii  xserver-xorg1:7.7+16
ii  zenity  3.22.0-1

Versions of packages gdm3 suggests:
ii  gnome-orca3.22.1-1
ii  libpam-gnome-keyring  3.20.0-3

-- debconf information:
  gdm3/daemon_name: /usr/sbin/gdm3
* shared/default-x-display-manager: gdm3