Bug#858281: hydrogen: Please remove GMkit content from the package due to license
Control: tags -1 + fixed-upstream The current beta 1.0.0-beta1 has a new and free drumkit included (GMRockKit instead of Gkit). signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#858281: hydrogen: Please remove GMkit content from the package due to license
2017-05-11 0:28 GMT+02:00 Roberto : > On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 05:09:35PM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote: > > 2017-03-22 8:14 GMT+01:00 Jaromír Mikeš : > > > Thank you for reporting this issue. > > > Actually it is quite unfortunate ... If we would remove GMkit we would > > > loose tutorial demo songs. > > > Is there any alternative for GMkit around with friendly license > > > which we could recommend to upstream author as replacement for GMkit? > > > > > > > Just for record ... > > I have been discussing this issue with upstream developers ... GMkit > should > > be replaced > > by something with friendly license. Hopefully in next release. > > Hi Roberto, I will try to help by recording a few new original samples, can you > please point me to the correct upstream contact or mailing list? > If can record some original samples it can be really helpful ;) Upstream contacts I am using ... mau...@smoors.de co...@users.sourceforge.net best regards mira
Bug#858281: hydrogen: Please remove GMkit content from the package due to license
On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 05:09:35PM +0200, Jaromír Mikeš wrote: > 2017-03-22 8:14 GMT+01:00 Jaromír Mikeš : > > Thank you for reporting this issue. > > Actually it is quite unfortunate ... If we would remove GMkit we would > > loose tutorial demo songs. > > Is there any alternative for GMkit around with friendly license > > which we could recommend to upstream author as replacement for GMkit? > > > > Just for record ... > I have been discussing this issue with upstream developers ... GMkit should > be replaced > by something with friendly license. Hopefully in next release. > > mira Sorry for delay in my reply. Good to know that it is already being addressed. I don't know of any replacement, unfortunately. I would also be interested in them, I was looking for free GM drums for the FreePats 2.0 sound bank, and I can assert that it is quite difficult to find anything actually created from original content. Some of them carry a free license, but when closely inspected their content is in the same situation than this one, or worse :/ I will try to help by recording a few new original samples, can you please point me to the correct upstream contact or mailing list?
Bug#858281: hydrogen: Please remove GMkit content from the package due to license
2017-03-22 8:14 GMT+01:00 Jaromír Mikeš : > > > 2017-03-20 19:03 GMT+01:00 Roberto : > > Hi Roberto, > > Package: hydrogen >> Severity: normal >> >> Content under directory data/drumkits/GMkit is derived from non-free >> sources (seems to be taken from Roland XV-5080 internal sound libraries). >> The file data/drumkits/GMkit/drumkit.xml only says "undefined license". >> >> Manufacturers of hardware synthesizers sometimes don't say which license >> applies to their bundled sample libraries, but they are certainly not in >> the public domain. They typically allow commercial content created with >> them, without paying royalties, but they could complain if someone creates >> a competing product derived from their sounds. A software synthesizer can >> be seen as a competing product (there are precedents of this by Roland >> Corporation in particular). >> >> Moreover, please consider documenting all files under "data" directory in >> debian/copyright, it will make easier to spot this issues, I've been using >> the Roland samples in this package for years without knowing. >> > > Thank you for reporting this issue. > Actually it is quite unfortunate ... If we would remove GMkit we would > loose tutorial demo songs. > Is there any alternative for GMkit around with friendly license > which we could recommend to upstream author as replacement for GMkit? > Just for record ... I have been discussing this issue with upstream developers ... GMkit should be replaced by something with friendly license. Hopefully in next release. mira
Bug#858281: hydrogen: Please remove GMkit content from the package due to license
2017-03-20 19:03 GMT+01:00 Roberto : Hi Roberto, Package: hydrogen > Severity: normal > > Content under directory data/drumkits/GMkit is derived from non-free > sources (seems to be taken from Roland XV-5080 internal sound libraries). > The file data/drumkits/GMkit/drumkit.xml only says "undefined license". > > Manufacturers of hardware synthesizers sometimes don't say which license > applies to their bundled sample libraries, but they are certainly not in > the public domain. They typically allow commercial content created with > them, without paying royalties, but they could complain if someone creates > a competing product derived from their sounds. A software synthesizer can > be seen as a competing product (there are precedents of this by Roland > Corporation in particular). > > Moreover, please consider documenting all files under "data" directory in > debian/copyright, it will make easier to spot this issues, I've been using > the Roland samples in this package for years without knowing. > Thank you for reporting this issue. Actually it is quite unfortunate ... If we would remove GMkit we would loose tutorial demo songs. Is there any alternative for GMkit around with friendly license which we could recommend to upstream author as replacement for GMkit? best regards mira
Bug#858281: hydrogen: Please remove GMkit content from the package due to license
Package: hydrogen Severity: normal Content under directory data/drumkits/GMkit is derived from non-free sources (seems to be taken from Roland XV-5080 internal sound libraries). The file data/drumkits/GMkit/drumkit.xml only says "undefined license". Manufacturers of hardware synthesizers sometimes don't say which license applies to their bundled sample libraries, but they are certainly not in the public domain. They typically allow commercial content created with them, without paying royalties, but they could complain if someone creates a competing product derived from their sounds. A software synthesizer can be seen as a competing product (there are precedents of this by Roland Corporation in particular). Moreover, please consider documenting all files under "data" directory in debian/copyright, it will make easier to spot this issues, I've been using the Roland samples in this package for years without knowing.
