Bug#872191: [Freedombox-pkg-team] Bug#872191: plinth: Merge the Disks and Snapshots configuration tabs?
From plinth 0.47.0, snapshots will not fill up the disk completely and will always maintain a minimum of 30% free disk space. This makes a lot of feature suggestions that help users delete snapshots obsolete. Also, snapshots might not be the only thing filling up the disk. It might be some other application like backups or federated applications. (Log rotation is implemented, so it won't be logs). We currently show warnings in the UI when the disk space is low but there is no indication yet on which application is taking up the most disk space and what the user can do about it. On 14/01/19 1:02 pm, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Joseph Nuthalapati] >> It might not be a good idea to merge the snapshots feature into >> storage for the following reasons: > Interesting observations, but I miss how these arguments hold up when > seen from the users point of view. My suggestion was based on my > experience as a user, wondering where my storage capacity disappered, > only to discover snapshots had filled up my disk with "invisible" > content. I suspect users running out of space will, like me, visit the > 'disk' menu to see if there is an explanation, and thus believe it > should be possible to see there how much space is spent on snapshots, as > well are purge some snapshots when running out of space. > -- Regards, Joseph Nuthalapati pEpkey.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Bug#872191: [Freedombox-pkg-team] Bug#872191: plinth: Merge the Disks and Snapshots configuration tabs?
[Joseph Nuthalapati] > It might not be a good idea to merge the snapshots feature into > storage for the following reasons: Interesting observations, but I miss how these arguments hold up when seen from the users point of view. My suggestion was based on my experience as a user, wondering where my storage capacity disappered, only to discover snapshots had filled up my disk with "invisible" content. I suspect users running out of space will, like me, visit the 'disk' menu to see if there is an explanation, and thus believe it should be possible to see there how much space is spent on snapshots, as well are purge some snapshots when running out of space. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen
Bug#872191: plinth: Merge the Disks and Snapshots configuration tabs?
It might not be a good idea to merge the snapshots feature into storage for the following reasons: - Disk management and snapshots are different in functionality. Snapshots is in fact more similar to Backups than to Storage. - Snapshots already has a subsubmenu with 2 entries. Further nesting into Storage will create an undesirable 2-level nesting. Or two tabs at the top which are separate enough to be listed as two different apps. - Operating systems that support snapshots do not combine it with storage (Yast2 in OpenSuse and Time Machine in macOS) - Once we open up the app store, we might have other applications which do snapshots for different filesystems. Then snapper integrated into storage might seem like preferential treatment to Btrfs. We did merge the udiskie app into storage, since it is a utility related to disk management. -- Regards, Joseph Nuthalapati pEpkey.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
Bug#872191: plinth: Merge the Disks and Snapshots configuration tabs?
Control: forwarded -1 https://github.com/freedombox/Plinth/pull/1015 Just noticed, there is a pull request for this idea waiting on github. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen
Bug#872191: plinth: Merge the Disks and Snapshots configuration tabs?
Package: plinth Version: 0.14.0+ds-1 Severity: wishlist The current Plinth configuration options for storage management are confusing. The 'Disks' And 'Snapshots' tabs are to a great extend talking about the same underlying storage device, but it is not obvious when looking at the 'Disks' status that the 'Snapshots' tab is relevant. It does not help that the icon for the snapshot tab is a movie frame. To make it easier to understand for new users, I suggest to rename 'Disks' and 'Snapshot' to 'Storage' and 'Storage Snapshots', making them appear next to each other in the menu. This might help with translations too. More long term, I suggest to merge the two tabs into one, showing both the storage fill rate and the available snapshots. -- Happy hacking Petter Reinholdtsen