Bug#893108: debian-edu-install: please do not force complex partitioning scheme

2018-03-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wolfgang Schweer]
>> I propose compeltely dropping Edu's own partitioning scheme and simply
>> using the corresponding step from the Debian installer, or defaulting to
>> jsut one partition or at most three (root, home and backup).
>
> IMO this change would reduce the existing flexibility to rather simple 
> use cases.

With one partition, a user will be able to kill system services that are
unable to cope with a full /var/.  And that is the case for quite a lot
of services.  I strongly recommend against the 'just one partition'
idea.

Users are able to write to /tmp/ and /var/tmp/, and can easily fill up
those partitions too.  I came up with the current partition scheme used
in Debian Edu based on the scheme used at the university of Oslo for 30
years, to ensure good reliability for system services while keeping theq
flexibility provided by LVM.  It is not really 'complex', and the
debian-edu-fsautoresize tool allow easy adjustment for partition sizes
when needed.

-- 
Happy hacking
Petter Reinholdtsen



Bug#893108: debian-edu-install: please do not force complex partitioning scheme

2018-03-18 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 04:37:13PM +0100, Dominik George wrote:

> The Skolelinux installer enforces a micropartitioning theme, splitting
> all parts of the filesystem into several volumes.

It's proposed, not enforced; a user can choose a different partion recipe
after declining to use automatic partitioning. 

> I propose compeltely dropping Edu's own partitioning scheme and simply
> using the corresponding step from the Debian installer, or defaulting to
> jsut one partition or at most three (root, home and backup).

IMO this change would reduce the existing flexibility to rather simple 
use cases.

Wolfgang


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Bug#893108: debian-edu-install: please do not force complex partitioning scheme

2018-03-16 Thread Dominik George
Source: debian-edu-install
Version: 2.10.8
Severity: wishlist

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The Skolelinux installer enforces a micropartitioning theme, splitting
all parts of the filesystem into several volumes. While there are
theoretical benefits, most a re historic, and in practice, the scheme
complicates installations and maintenance (there is an entire chapter in
the manual describing what to do if something runs full).

I know from at least two support cases that the scheme made things more
difficult than necessary, and it cost me several hours today because I
had to install Debian Edu with limited space and one of the partitions
always ended up being too small.

I propose compeltely dropping Edu's own partitioning scheme and simply
using the corresponding step from the Debian installer, or defaulting to
jsut one partition or at most three (root, home and backup).

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