Bug#907293: stops: Please consider making another upload and refreshing package
Hi Boyuan, > I am not proposing to remove this package; instead I was proposing of having > MIA team involved and (orphan this package) / (have other maintainers taken > this package care of) That should not be necessary since it is maintained by debian-multimedia. I agree it needs a rebuild now, even if the version stays at 0.3.0. > I thought stops might be eligible to such > arrangement since it received no upload in the past 11 years, which is No.3 > oldest (!) package in the Debian archive. Let's aim for No. 1 by the year 2028 :-) Cheers! Daniel
Bug#907293: stops: Please consider making another upload and refreshing package
在 2018年8月28日星期二 EDT 上午6:56:13，Sebastian Ramacher 写道： > Hi Boyuan > > On 2018-08-28 10:49:48, Daniel James wrote: > > Hi Boyuan, > > > > > Dear stops maintainer (Hi Free Ekanayaka) > > > > Maintainer for this package is Debian Multimedia Team, it's just that > > Free was the last uploader. > > > > > I was cleaning up packages that hasn't receive any upload in Debian for > > > a long time and noticed that your package, stops, received no upload > > > since 2007, which is quite a long period of time. > > > > As I recall, this package is static data, and may not ever need to be > > updated upstream. Debian's version 0.3.0 is still the current release: > > http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html > > > > stops is a dependency of the active package > > https://packages.debian.org/sid/aeolus which has a new upstream release > > available (0.9.7). > > > > > Making uploads to stops might be necessary according to [1] since we > > > want to make Debian 100% reproducible in the future [2] and all > > > packages built before December 2016 will need a rebuild. > > > > Sounds good! Also #888669 might need looking at. I am not a Debian > > Developer but happy to help if I can find a sponsor. > > > > > I am also considering initiating the MIA procedure[3] (targeting > > > package only, not to the person because I know you look still active) if > > > there's no reply after certain period of time > > > > Hopefully that will not be necessary, aeolus is a unique software > > instrument and it would be a shame to lose it from Debian. > > The MIA procedure is for maintainers and not for packages. So I am not sure > what the intended goal is. Do you want to get get stops removed from the > archive? I would find asking for removal of packages maintainer by other > people that do not have an RC bug and have not been superseded rather > inappropriate. I am not proposing to remove this package; instead I was proposing of having MIA team involved and (orphan this package) / (have other maintainers taken this package care of) since monitoring packages that receive little care is also part of QA/MIA Team's job. I thought stops might be eligible to such arrangement since it received no upload in the past 11 years, which is No.3 oldest (!) package in the Debian archive. The reproducible-builds project as mentioned above is also another reason of having the package rebuilt. My personal idea is that packages in Debian should ideally be rebuilt every few years (or at least definitely every 10 years) since the packaging technology and .deb package formats are all evolving. I'm happy to provide with any kind of help that you might find necessary (including NMUs) but a concent from previous maintainers / uploaders will make the procedure more smoothly. -- Regards, Boyuan Yang signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#907293: stops: Please consider making another upload and refreshing package
Hi Boyuan On 2018-08-28 10:49:48, Daniel James wrote: > Hi Boyuan, > > Dear stops maintainer (Hi Free Ekanayaka) > > Maintainer for this package is Debian Multimedia Team, it's just that > Free was the last uploader. > > > I was cleaning up packages that hasn't receive any upload in Debian for a > > long > > time and noticed that your package, stops, received no upload since 2007, > > which is quite a long period of time. > > As I recall, this package is static data, and may not ever need to be > updated upstream. Debian's version 0.3.0 is still the current release: > http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html > > stops is a dependency of the active package > https://packages.debian.org/sid/aeolus which has a new upstream release > available (0.9.7). > > > Making uploads to stops might be necessary according to [1] since we want > > to > > make Debian 100% reproducible in the future [2] and all packages built > > before > > December 2016 will need a rebuild. > > Sounds good! Also #888669 might need looking at. I am not a Debian > Developer but happy to help if I can find a sponsor. > > > I am also considering initiating the MIA procedure[3] (targeting > > package only, not to the person because I know you look still active) if > > there's no reply after certain period of time > > Hopefully that will not be necessary, aeolus is a unique software > instrument and it would be a shame to lose it from Debian. The MIA procedure is for maintainers and not for packages. So I am not sure what the intended goal is. Do you want to get get stops removed from the archive? I would find asking for removal of packages maintainer by other people that do not have an RC bug and have not been superseded rather inappropriate. Best -- Sebastian Ramacher signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#907293: stops: Please consider making another upload and refreshing package
Hi Boyuan, > Dear stops maintainer (Hi Free Ekanayaka) Maintainer for this package is Debian Multimedia Team, it's just that Free was the last uploader. > I was cleaning up packages that hasn't receive any upload in Debian for a > long > time and noticed that your package, stops, received no upload since 2007, > which is quite a long period of time. As I recall, this package is static data, and may not ever need to be updated upstream. Debian's version 0.3.0 is still the current release: http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/linuxaudio/downloads/index.html stops is a dependency of the active package https://packages.debian.org/sid/aeolus which has a new upstream release available (0.9.7). > Making uploads to stops might be necessary according to [1] since we want to > make Debian 100% reproducible in the future [2] and all packages built before > December 2016 will need a rebuild. Sounds good! Also #888669 might need looking at. I am not a Debian Developer but happy to help if I can find a sponsor. > I am also considering initiating the MIA procedure[3] (targeting > package only, not to the person because I know you look still active) if > there's no reply after certain period of time Hopefully that will not be necessary, aeolus is a unique software instrument and it would be a shame to lose it from Debian. Cheers! Daniel
Bug#907293: stops: Please consider making another upload and refreshing package
Package: stops Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: fr...@debian.org Dear stops maintainer (Hi Free Ekanayaka), I was cleaning up packages that hasn't receive any upload in Debian for a long time and noticed that your package, stops, received no upload since 2007, which is quite a long period of time. Making uploads to stops might be necessary according to [1] since we want to make Debian 100% reproducible in the future [2] and all packages built before December 2016 will need a rebuild. Meanwhile, It is unsure whether you are still actively maintaining this package and is willing to maintain it in the future after so many years. Besides, this package is using ancient packaging instructions (debhelper compat v5) and that needs refreshing. As a result, I am wondering if you could make another upload for package stops recently, ideally before the Buster freeze. Since it hasn't receive any upload for 11 years, I am also considering initiating the MIA procedure[3] (targeting package only, not to the person because I know you look still active) if there's no reply after certain period of time (e.g., 60 days). Thank you very much for your attention and understanding, -- Best Regards, Boyuan Yang [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2018/05/msg00499.html [2] https://reproducible-builds.org/ [3] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/MIA signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
