Bug#940626: uxterm: please lessen dependency on locales
On Tue, 17 Sep 2019, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> > Please apply the following patch (which is _not_ suitable for
> > upstream as the C.UTF-8 locale is my invention and not shipped
>
> really?
Sure, introduced in eglibc 2.13-1, see #609306 for 240 lynx screen
pages of 113x34 for the discussions around that following my fea‐
ture request for such locale.
> (I forget exactly, but my first sighting of this was from the Cygwin crowd -
> there was a long thread on austin-review a few years later).
After reading your eMail I thought “huh, Cygwin doesn’t have locale
support *at all*” and checked and apparently, they added it in the
1.7 version, which is much more recent (and which I’ve never installed).
> > in all operating systems):
>
> still, a bad idea regarding interoperability (in case one uses ssh,
> passing the locale settings from one machine to another).
I’ve had enough grief with en_US.{utf8,UTF-8} in mksh’s testsuite
to request a C.UTF-8 locale. Considering “most” remote systems are
Debian or comparable¹ nowadays, locales-all is not normally installed
and d-i does not generate the en_US.UTF-8 locale, a switch to C.UTF-8
would actually i̲m̲p̲r̲o̲v̲e̲ this situation.
① Added to Arch Linux in task 59737, Red Hat BZ#902094, Fedora too,
and OpenSuSE also carries it… oh, PEP 538 even talks about the
glibc developers (upstream) “are working towards making the C.UTF-8
locale universally available”… seems my idea gained traction.
And many systems just do a !stristr(setlocale(…), "UTF-8").
bye,
//mirabilos
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Bug#940626: uxterm: please lessen dependency on locales
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:35:32AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Package: xterm > Version: 348-2 > Severity: normal > Tags: patch > > Please apply the following patch (which is _not_ suitable for > upstream as the C.UTF-8 locale is my invention and not shipped really? (I forget exactly, but my first sighting of this was from the Cygwin crowd - there was a long thread on austin-review a few years later). > in all operating systems): still, a bad idea regarding interoperability (in case one uses ssh, passing the locale settings from one machine to another). -- Thomas E. Dickey https://invisible-island.net ftp://ftp.invisible-island.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#940626: uxterm: please lessen dependency on locales
Package: xterm
Version: 348-2
Severity: normal
Tags: patch
Please apply the following patch (which is _not_ suitable for
upstream as the C.UTF-8 locale is my invention and not shipped
in all operating systems):
--- usr/bin/uxterm
+++ uxterm
@@ -71,7 +71,7 @@ do
C|POSIX)
# Yes, I know this is not the same - but why are you
# here then?
- value=en_US
+ value=C
;;
esac
break
@@ -87,7 +87,7 @@ if test $found != yes ; then
value=`echo ${value} |sed -e 's/[.@].*//'`.UTF-8
else
name="LC_CTYPE"
- value="en_US.UTF-8"
+ value="C.UTF-8"
fi
eval save=\$${name}
eval ${name}=${value}
-- System Information:
Debian Release: bullseye/sid
APT prefers unreleased
APT policy: (500, 'unreleased'), (500, 'buildd-unstable'), (500, 'unstable'),
(100, 'experimental')
Architecture: x32 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386, amd64
Kernel: Linux 5.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Kernel taint flags: TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=C (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/lksh
Init: sysvinit (via /sbin/init)
Versions of packages xterm depends on:
ii libc6 2.29-1
ii libfontconfig1 2.13.1-2+b1
ii libfreetype62.9.1-4
ii libice6 2:1.0.9-2
ii libtinfo6 6.1+20190803-1
ii libutempter01.1.6-3
ii libx11-62:1.6.7-1
ii libxaw7 2:1.0.13-1+b2
ii libxext62:1.3.3-1+b2
ii libxft2 2.3.2-2
ii libxinerama12:1.1.4-2
ii libxmu6 2:1.1.2-2+b3
ii libxpm4 1:3.5.12-1
ii libxt6 1:1.1.5-1+b3
ii xbitmaps1.1.1-2
Versions of packages xterm recommends:
ii x11-utils 7.7+4
Versions of packages xterm suggests:
pn xfonts-cyrillic
-- no debconf information
