Bug#941408: marked as pending in koules
Hi Stephen, > You’re very welcome! It’s not ideal, since the dependency isn’t strong, but > policy says packages can’t depend on font packages — which makes sense in X > since the fonts can be served remotely. thanks for the explanation! (This almost triggered a question by my, but I understood that koules may still be supporting svgalib on non-X11 systems. Anyway I've enjoyed a nice game of koules. :)) Regards, Bernhard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#941408: marked as pending in koules
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 21:24:04 +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > I’ll open a bug against policy. https://bugs.debian.org/941803 Regards, Stephen pgp_VJCG_x8mT.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#941408: marked as pending in koules
On Sat, 5 Oct 2019 10:46:03 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 at 11:02:00 +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > > It’s not ideal, since the dependency isn’t strong, but > > policy says packages can’t depend on font packages — which makes sense in > > X since the fonts can be served remotely. (See > > https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-depends-on-an-x-font-package.html > > for details.) > > Does this recommendation still make sense? It certainly *used to be* > the case that font rendering (and a lot of other rendering) was done > server-side on the X server, possibly with fonts served by a remote > font server like the xfstt package; but my understanding is that this > decade, toolkits like GTK and Qt normally do their rendering locally > and are responsible for loading their own fonts, mostly via fontconfig > and freetype. Right, it probably doesn’t make much sense any more. Ironically, the situation is better now than it was a few years ago when X font servers stopped being popular and before fontconfit and Freetype became commonplace: with the latter, there are fallbacks which usually work reasonably well (at least, well enough to get some text on the screen), whereas X programs which ask for a specific font (such as Koules here) typically break if the X server doesn’t have the font... I’ll open a bug against policy. Regards, Stephen pgpqGXAB5EFWc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#941408: marked as pending in koules
On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 at 11:02:00 +0200, Stephen Kitt wrote: > It’s not ideal, since the dependency isn’t strong, but > policy says packages can’t depend on font packages — which makes sense in X > since the fonts can be served remotely. (See > https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-depends-on-an-x-font-package.html for > details.) Does this recommendation still make sense? It certainly *used to be* the case that font rendering (and a lot of other rendering) was done server-side on the X server, possibly with fonts served by a remote font server like the xfstt package; but my understanding is that this decade, toolkits like GTK and Qt normally do their rendering locally and are responsible for loading their own fonts, mostly via fontconfig and freetype. smcv
Bug#941408: marked as pending in koules
Hi Bernhard, On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 14:55:08 +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: > > Recommend xfonts-base (Koules needs schumacher) > > thanks for the improvement! You’re very welcome! It’s not ideal, since the dependency isn’t strong, but policy says packages can’t depend on font packages — which makes sense in X since the fonts can be served remotely. (See https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-depends-on-an-x-font-package.html for details.) Regards, Stephen pgpzfT9rrVVjc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Bug#941408: marked as pending in koules
Stephen, > Recommend xfonts-base (Koules needs schumacher) thanks for the improvement! Bernhard
