Bug#984526: [pkg-crosswire-devel] Bug#984526: sword-text-kjv: Package is non-free
Le 04/03/2021 à 20:56, Bastian Germann a écrit : Am 04.03.21 um 20:33 schrieb Teus Benschop: Here is an article on the copyright issues with regard to the KJV. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_status It says, among many other things that "The Authorized Version is in the public domain in most of the world. However, in the United Kingdom, the right to print, publish and distribute it is a royal prerogative..." It's a bit messy, it looks. Reading over it, I am not sure that the KJV is free to be distributed in Debian. This was discussed in #338077 and found to be okay (because it is a Commonwealth problem only). This is not the problem here. It is the editions by CrossWire that are non-free. Earlier faults in history are continuing to harass us and limit the word of God somehow. In the 17th century there was not even the concept of copyright. When copyright was invented, the English Crown retrospectively applied that concept to the KJV. 👍 ___ pkg-crosswire-devel mailing list pkg-crosswire-de...@alioth-lists.debian.net https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-crosswire-devel
Bug#984526: [pkg-crosswire-devel] Bug#984526: sword-text-kjv: Package is non-free
Am 04.03.21 um 22:02 schrieb Bastian Germann: Am 04.03.21 um 21:48 schrieb Bastian Germann: If we want to keep a KJV module in main, we can replace the KJV with ebible's KJVCPB module, which comes with source. Then we have to think about the version number. We can also move kjv to non-free and introduce a new package sword-text-kjvcpb, which would not make it into bullseye obviously. I just noticed that ebible actually has engKJV1769eb and engKJV2006eb, which both are distributed as public domain. So the best solution would be using engKJV2006eb, which is the same work that we already have but in public domain. It comes with source and has a greater version number: 5.3. Problem solved. As you can read in the originally linked thread, a CrossWire author claims that engKJV2006eb (and probably engKJV1769eb as well) being published as public domain is a wrong claim. If that proves to be true I would go for the KJVCPB. That comes without the Strong's numbers, which obviously seem to be the main addition by CrossWire.
Bug#984526: [pkg-crosswire-devel] Bug#984526: sword-text-kjv: Package is non-free
Le 04/03/2021 à 20:12, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit : On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:04:13PM +0100, Bastian Germann wrote: Source: sword-text-kjv Severity: serious Version: 2.10-1 sword-text-kjv is non-free in all of its versions. The details are in https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv/-/commit/0203c85010a9a I read the thread (and looked at your changes). This seems to a bit of a tangled mess. It will be a few days before I can take a closer look and provide my thoughts. Please add your thoughts. I just add mine ;) Regards, -Roberto
Bug#984526: [pkg-crosswire-devel] Bug#984526: sword-text-kjv: Package is non-free
Am 04.03.21 um 21:48 schrieb Bastian Germann: If we want to keep a KJV module in main, we can replace the KJV with ebible's KJVCPB module, which comes with source. Then we have to think about the version number. We can also move kjv to non-free and introduce a new package sword-text-kjvcpb, which would not make it into bullseye obviously. I just noticed that ebible actually has engKJV1769eb and engKJV2006eb, which both are distributed as public domain. So the best solution would be using engKJV2006eb, which is the same work that we already have but in public domain. It comes with source and has a greater version number: 5.3. Problem solved.
Bug#984526: [pkg-crosswire-devel] Bug#984526: sword-text-kjv: Package is non-free
Here is an article on the copyright issues with regard to the KJV. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version#Copyright_status It says, among many other things that "The Authorized Version is in the public domain in most of the world. However, in the United Kingdom, the right to print, publish and distribute it is a royal prerogative..." It's a bit messy, it looks. Reading over it, I am not sure that the KJV is free to be distributed in Debian. Earlier faults in history are continuing to harass us and limit the word of God somehow. Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Teus Benschop https://freesoftwareconsultants.nl https://bibledit.org On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 20:12, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:04:13PM +0100, Bastian Germann wrote: > > Source: sword-text-kjv > > Severity: serious > > Version: 2.10-1 > > > > sword-text-kjv is non-free in all of its versions. The details are in > > https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv/-/commit/0203c85010a9a > > > I read the thread (and looked at your changes). This seems to a bit of > a tangled mess. It will be a few days before I can take a closer look > and provide my thoughts. > > Regards, > > -Roberto > > -- > Roberto C. Sánchez > > ___ > pkg-crosswire-devel mailing list > pkg-crosswire-de...@alioth-lists.debian.net > > https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-crosswire-devel >
Bug#984526: [pkg-crosswire-devel] Bug#984526: sword-text-kjv: Package is non-free
On Thu, Mar 04, 2021 at 06:04:13PM +0100, Bastian Germann wrote: > Source: sword-text-kjv > Severity: serious > Version: 2.10-1 > > sword-text-kjv is non-free in all of its versions. The details are in > https://gitlab.com/crosswire-bible-society/kjv/-/commit/0203c85010a9a > I read the thread (and looked at your changes). This seems to a bit of a tangled mess. It will be a few days before I can take a closer look and provide my thoughts. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez
