Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On Sun, Jul 03, 2005 at 11:27:56AM +0200, Adeodato Sim?? wrote:
* Frank Lichtenheld [Sun, 03 Jul 2005 02:37:12 +0200]:
Hello all,
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:37:37PM +0300, Jarkko Suontausta wrote:
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 19:54, Itai Seggev wrote:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:24:56PM +0200, Isaac Clerencia wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:53, Itai Seggev wrote:
rest of kdebase. Is there any particular reason for this behaviour? I
would expect that if I installed kdebase, I would get all of it.
Exactly for this:
kdebase doesn't depend on kde because it works perfectly without it.
I have kdebase installed here but I can live fine with my gdm...
Recommends is really the right choice here and I would suggest to use
a apt frontend that honors them.
I just wanted to point out the the short description of kdebase is
KDE Base Metapackage. With a description like that, I would expect
to get all of kdebase, and kdm does live under kdebase in the the
source tree. Perhaps there is some slightly better terminology that
can be used? (I'd offer something if I could think if it. :)
We tightened the kdm dependency on kdebase-bin, which was the one
causing problems. As now kdm Depends: kdebase-bin (= ${Source-Version),
kdm will necessarily get upgraded whenever kdebase is.
This sounds like a reasonable solution.
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Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 10:30:03AM -0700, Itai Seggev wrote: I just wanted to point out the the short description of kdebase is KDE Base Metapackage. With a description like that, I would expect to get all of kdebase, and kdm does live under kdebase in the the source tree. Perhaps there is some slightly better terminology that can be used? (I'd offer something if I could think if it. :) That's why I would never recommend using apt-get for people that get irritated by things like this. aptitude (probably synaptic, too?) will do the right thing here per default. Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.djpig.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On July 3, 2005 09:27, Adeodato Simó wrote:
The real question is why the kde packages don't conflict with earlier
kdm versions if they don't work with them... (not that kde had too few
conflicts, how about a little backwards compatibility anyway?)
This situation is mostly fixed in our SVN since Jun 9, but there has
not been another upload to experimental since then. .oO(Must implement
that svn post-commit hook that tags pending and attachs changelog
entry when closing a bug in SVN, like subversion (the pacakge) does.)
We tightened the kdm dependency on kdebase-bin, which was the one
causing problems. As now kdm Depends: kdebase-bin (= ${Source-Version),
kdm will necessarily get upgraded whenever kdebase is.
This, er, solves the problem after people upgrade to kdm 3.4.1. The
possibility of remaining with an un-upgraded 3.3.2 remains, but I
haven't decided what to do with that yet. Perhaps a one-time versioned
conflicts (kdebase-bin Conflicts: kdm ( 4:3.4.1-2), what do you
think, Christopher?).
Seems fine to me!
Cheers,
Christopher Martin
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Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 19:54, Itai Seggev wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:24:56PM +0200, Isaac Clerencia wrote: On Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:53, Itai Seggev wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.3.2-1 Severity: grave Tags: experimental Justification: renders package unusable I think the title says it all. :) I've upgraded all my kde packages to 3.4 (experimental) and now kdm crashes on startup. That's false, according to your own report you're still using kdm 3.3.2 ;) Upgrading it should work. Best regards Yes, you're right. It seems the problem was that kdm is only recommend by, and not depended on, by kdebase, so it wasn't upgraded with the rest of kdebase. Is there any particular reason for this behaviour? I would expect that if I installed kdebase, I would get all of it. I second this and have been puzzled as to why kdebase doesn't depend on kdm... there is probably a (historical?) reason for that, but it might be worthwhile to reconsider adding that dependency... This is the only relevant message I found about kdebase depending on kdm by quick googling: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/1999/04/msg01656.html If you have any pointers to other discussions etc. about the matter, please let me know... -- Jarkko Suontausta -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On Sat, Jul 02, 2005 at 11:37:37PM +0300, Jarkko Suontausta wrote: On Wednesday 08 June 2005 19:54, Itai Seggev wrote: On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:24:56PM +0200, Isaac Clerencia wrote: On Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:53, Itai Seggev wrote: Yes, you're right. It seems the problem was that kdm is only recommend by, and not depended on, by kdebase, so it wasn't upgraded with the rest of kdebase. Is there any particular reason for this behaviour? I would expect that if I installed kdebase, I would get all of it. I second this and have been puzzled as to why kdebase doesn't depend on kdm... there is probably a (historical?) reason for that, but it might be worthwhile to reconsider adding that dependency... The real question is why the kde packages don't conflict with earlier kdm versions if they don't work with them... (not that kde had too few conflicts, how about a little backwards compatibility anyway?) kdebase doesn't depend on kde because it works perfectly without it. I have kdebase installed here but I can live fine with my gdm... Recommends is really the right choice here and I would suggest to use a apt frontend that honors them. Gruesse, -- Frank Lichtenheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.djpig.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:24:56PM +0200, Isaac Clerencia wrote: On Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:53, Itai Seggev wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.3.2-1 Severity: grave Tags: experimental Justification: renders package unusable I think the title says it all. :) I've upgraded all my kde packages to 3.4 (experimental) and now kdm crashes on startup. That's false, according to your own report you're still using kdm 3.3.2 ;) Upgrading it should work. Best regards Yes, you're right. It seems the problem was that kdm is only recommend by, and not depended on, by kdebase, so it wasn't upgraded with the rest of kdebase. Is there any particular reason for this behaviour? I would expect that if I installed kdebase, I would get all of it. Thanks, -- Itai Itai Seggev, University of Chicago, Department of Physics In 1997 a group of programmers started writing a desktop environment to fix a travesty they didn't create. Their program promptly found its way onto un*x systems everywhere. Today, still opposed by a software monopolist, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you share their vision, if you know you can help, and if you can connect to internet, maybe you can join... the K-Team. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
Package: kdm Version: 4:3.3.2-1 Severity: grave Tags: experimental Justification: renders package unusable I think the title says it all. :) I've upgraded all my kde packages to 3.4 (experimental) and now kdm crashes on startup. The trace is included below. Using host libthread_db library /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1. (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [New Thread -1226388800 (LWP 3899)] (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) (no debugging symbols found) [KCrash handler] #7 0xb785f959 in QString::QString () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #8 0xb6b072d2 in KClassicGreeter::KClassicGreeter () from /usr/lib/kde3/kgreet_classic.so #9 0xb6b091ae in KClassicGreeter::slotLoginLostFocus () from /usr/lib/kde3/kgreet_classic.so #10 0x080616fd in ?? () #11 0x080f2078 in ?? () #12 0x080deea8 in ?? () #13 0x0810e868 in ?? () #14 0x080f20e4 in ?? () #15 0x in ?? () #16 0x in ?? () #17 0x08106ae0 in ?? () #18 0xb79f453c in ?? () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #19 0x in ?? () #20 0x080ded10 in ?? () #21 0xbac8 in ?? () #22 0xb7573846 in QBoxLayout::addLayout () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #23 0x08068922 in ?? () #24 0x080f2050 in ?? () #25 0x in ?? () #26 0x in ?? () #27 0x0810e868 in ?? () #28 0x08075134 in typeinfo for KListView () #29 0x080756d8 in typeinfo for KListViewItem () #30 0x in ?? () #31 0x in ?? () #32 0xb70e38a8 in __after_morecore_hook () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #33 0xb70e3860 in __after_morecore_hook () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #34 0x0807c3b8 in ?? () #35 0x08155e08 in ?? () #36 0x08106ae0 in ?? () #37 0x0810e6a0 in ?? () #38 0x in ?? () #39 0x0085 in ?? () #40 0x080acce0 in ?? () #41 0xb70e3860 in __after_morecore_hook () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #42 0x0001 in ?? () #43 0xbb38 in ?? () #44 0xb79beba8 in vtable for QPaintDevice () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 #45 0x00400028 in ?? () #46 0x08092180 in ?? () #47 0x0002 in ?? () #48 0x in ?? () #49 0x08092150 in ?? () #50 0xbb68 in ?? () #51 0xb71a32fe in operator new () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 #52 0x0806ce4a in ?? () #53 0x080ded10 in ?? () #54 0x in ?? () #55 0x0044 in ?? () #56 0xbcc8 in ?? () #57 0x in ?? () #58 0x in ?? () #59 0x0001 in ?? () #60 0xbbe0 in ?? () #61 0xb7ff1b3c in _dl_unload_cache () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 #62 0x0805a59d in ?? () #63 0xbf19 in ?? () #64 0x0807c9e0 in ?? () #65 0x0001 in ?? () #66 0x080753f4 in typeinfo for KListViewItem () #67 0x080753e8 in typeinfo for KListViewItem () #68 0x080753ec in typeinfo for KListViewItem () #69 0xbd98 in ?? () #70 0x0806fc25 in QMemArraychar::detach () #71 0xb6fc6970 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 #72 0x08057fc1 in ?? () -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers unstable APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash Kernel: Linux 2.6.10grvisitor1 Locale: LANG=he_IL.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=he_IL.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Versions of packages kdm depends on: ii debconf 1.4.50 Debian configuration management sy ii kdebase-bin 4:3.4.1-1 core binaries for the KDE base mod ii kdelibs4 4:3.4.1-1 core libraries for all KDE applica ii libart-2.0-2 2.3.17-1Library of functions for 2D graphi ii
Bug#312358: kdm crashes on startup
On Tuesday, 7 June 2005 18:53, Itai Seggev wrote: Package: kdm Version: 4:3.3.2-1 Severity: grave Tags: experimental Justification: renders package unusable I think the title says it all. :) I've upgraded all my kde packages to 3.4 (experimental) and now kdm crashes on startup. That's false, according to your own report you're still using kdm 3.3.2 ;) Upgrading it should work. Best regards -- Isaac Clerencia at Warp Networks, http://www.warp.es Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpKMkx9VqlFt.pgp Description: PGP signature
