Bug#362887: Hiding bugs?

2006-04-22 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Micah,
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:03:44PM -0400, Micah Anderson wrote:
> It is known that these architectures which failed these tests, pass the
> tests that are provided by upstream, in the kernel. There is a high
> degree of probability that these tests fail, not because of a problem on

Ok, it simply wasn't clear to me from the changelog. Thanks for
clarifying.

Greetings

Helge

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Bug#362887: Hiding bugs?

2006-04-19 Thread Micah Anderson
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Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> Hello,
> why do remove the testsuite? I think it would make more sense to

I removed the testsuite because the tests fail on most architectures,
and I've filed a bug with upstream with the results and intend to work
on resolving them, but until they are resolved, there is no sense in
keeping the utilities from being available on those architectures that fail.

> investigate the error and either remove the package from s390 or fix
> the underlying error. Right now users might experience that problem on
> this architecture (and possibly others) without noticing. Testuits are
> there for a reason.

It is known that these architectures which failed these tests, pass the
tests that are provided by upstream, in the kernel. There is a high
degree of probability that these tests fail, not because of a problem on
the architecture, but a problem in the test methodology itself. These
tools have been used by these architectures for some time now, and we've
worked out all the issues that keep vservers from being usable on this
architecture. There is no reason to keep out functionality fixes from
these architectures because these tests fail.

micah



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Bug#362887: Hiding bugs?

2006-04-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi

It looks like this is a bug in some other package (like bash) that
we just go around this way.

Regards,

// Ola

On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:14:20PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> Hello,
> why do remove the testsuite? I think it would make more sense to
> investigate the error and either remove the package from s390 or fix
> the underlying error. Right now users might experience that problem on
> this architecture (and possibly others) without noticing. Testuits are
> there for a reason.
> 
> I am neither RM nor a user of S390, so I will not reopen.
> 
> Greetings
> 
>  Helge
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Bug#362887: Hiding bugs?

2006-04-19 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
why do remove the testsuite? I think it would make more sense to
investigate the error and either remove the package from s390 or fix
the underlying error. Right now users might experience that problem on
this architecture (and possibly others) without noticing. Testuits are
there for a reason.

I am neither RM nor a user of S390, so I will not reopen.

Greetings

 Helge
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