Bug#456037: Fenix: not 64 bit clean, should it be out of Lenny?
On Sat Dec 13 05:07, Miriam Ruiz wrote: Fenix isn't in Etch. Dropping it from Lenny would remove a game, and a related framework (this seems to be the complete list): Unless we find a way to make it work in 64 bits, either we reduce the arch to i386 only -which is something I don't like doing at all-, or we remove it from Lenny. I'm not exactly sure that the code is of a very high quality. It's a pity for pixfrogger, but maybe porting it to python or C++ would be easier than to fix Fenix XD Well, restricting it to all the 32bit archs, presumably. I don't think that's necessarily a problem given it's not been released on other archs yet, so it's not a regression. I definitely think that at this point the options are 'drop completely' and 'drop from 64bit archs' and the latter is clearly preferable (of course if people think it's just generally bad, then dropping completely is reasonable) I assume this has been forwarded upstream? Matt -- Matthew Johnson signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#456037: Fenix: not 64 bit clean, should it be out of Lenny?
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 14:04, Matthew Johnson mj...@debian.org wrote: Well, restricting it to all the 32bit archs, presumably. I don't think that's necessarily a problem given it's not been released on other archs yet, so it's not a regression. I definitely think that at this point the options are 'drop completely' and 'drop from 64bit archs' and the latter is clearly preferable (of course if people think it's just generally bad, then dropping completely is reasonable) Agreed. If the software itself is good, what is gained by making it unavailable to 32-bit users? This even lessens the chance of someone liking the game and patching it. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#456037: Fenix: not 64 bit clean, should it be out of Lenny?
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:52:41PM +0100, Peter De Wachter wrote: retitle 456037 fenix: not 64 bit clean severity 456037 grave thanks The Fenix source code is riddled with the assumption that pointers are 32 bit, which is obviously not true on 64 bit systems. A big problem is that the bytecode assumes 32 bit pointers. So either the bytecode format needs to be changed, or the interpreter needs a translation layer between VM pointers and native pointers Fenix isn't in Etch. Dropping it from Lenny would remove a game, and a related framework (this seems to be the complete list): fenix fenix-dev pixfrogger fenix-plugins fenix-plugin-mpeg fenix-plugins-system The other user of Fenix in unstable is Pixbros, which is already out of Lenny for #486567. Both games actually play OK on 64-bit AMD. Is removing it the right option? Regards, Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#456037: Fenix: not 64 bit clean, should it be out of Lenny?
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:06:37 +
Steve Cotton steve0...@s.cotton.clara.co.uk wrote:
Both games actually play OK on 64-bit AMD.
This is due to a weird behaviour of glibc or perhaps the kernel. If you
malloc a small amount of memory, you get a pointer that fits in a
32-bit int. If you allocate a large amount of memory, you don't.
For example:
#include stdlib.h
#include stdio.h
int main ()
{
printf(small allocation: %p\n, malloc(1));
printf(large allocation: %p\n, malloc(100));
}
consistently gives output like this on my system:
$ ./malloc
small allocation: 0x1a14010
large allocation: 0x7f0be5ded010
I don't think this is something one should be relying on :)
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Bug#456037: Fenix: not 64 bit clean, should it be out of Lenny?
2008/12/13 Steve Cotton steve0...@s.cotton.clara.co.uk: On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:52:41PM +0100, Peter De Wachter wrote: retitle 456037 fenix: not 64 bit clean severity 456037 grave thanks The Fenix source code is riddled with the assumption that pointers are 32 bit, which is obviously not true on 64 bit systems. A big problem is that the bytecode assumes 32 bit pointers. So either the bytecode format needs to be changed, or the interpreter needs a translation layer between VM pointers and native pointers Fenix isn't in Etch. Dropping it from Lenny would remove a game, and a related framework (this seems to be the complete list): Unless we find a way to make it work in 64 bits, either we reduce the arch to i386 only -which is something I don't like doing at all-, or we remove it from Lenny. I'm not exactly sure that the code is of a very high quality. It's a pity for pixfrogger, but maybe porting it to python or C++ would be easier than to fix Fenix XD Probably removing it from Lenny unless we find a non-very-difficult way to solve it would be the best. Greetings, Miry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
