Bug#484599: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#484599: ia32-libs contains several sources and break policy 4.13

2008-07-27 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 12:04:39PM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> severity 484599 important
> tags 484599 wontfix
> thanks
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> 
> Hi!
> 
> May I ask you for the motivation to open this bug? 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 07:44:50AM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote:
> > ia32-libs contains several sources of software that are already packaged
> > and available from the Debian archive.
> > [...]
> > None of the software contained into ia32-libs are intended to be
> > packaged this way.
> 
> There are only 2 ways of dealing with this: 
> 
> - fix multiarch blockers (binutils) and finish the implementation (not
>   for lenny anymore, sorry)
> 
> - implement biarch like RedHat and SuSE did, putting all 64bit libs to
>   /lib64 and 32bit libs to /lib, and patching dpkg et all to cope with
>   this, allowing amd64 to install both amd64 and i386 packages (no way,
>   sorry - 4 years too late for this)
> 
> But opening RC bugs pointing to the obvious mess doesn't help neither our 
> users nor my blood pressure.
> 
> Regards
> Frederik Schüler
> 
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Bug#484599: ia32-libs contains several sources and break policy 4.13

2008-06-05 Thread Javier Serrano Polo
El dj 05 de 06 de 2008 a les 12:04 +0200, en/na Frederik Schueler va
escriure:
> May I ask you for the motivation to open this bug?

#392362, I guess.

> There are only 2 ways of dealing with this:

There's a third way you refuse to consider that's being working for more
than three months. I'll be glad to resume discussions (preferably out of
this bug) if there's a chance to convince you or to actually improve the
system.

> But opening RC bugs pointing to the obvious mess doesn't help neither our 
> users nor my blood pressure.

AFAIR "should" isn't RC, though some might not want to release an
"obvious mess". I hope the release team notices this is the only
official solution currently available.

ia32-libs maintainers: Please don't regard this message as an attack.
You're doing a good job. I can't take advantage of it, but it's a good
job nevertheless.




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Bug#484599: [Pkg-ia32-libs-maintainers] Bug#484599: ia32-libs contains several sources and break policy 4.13

2008-06-05 Thread Frederik Schueler
severity 484599 important
tags 484599 wontfix
thanks

Hi!

May I ask you for the motivation to open this bug? 

On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 07:44:50AM +0200, Julien Danjou wrote:
> ia32-libs contains several sources of software that are already packaged
> and available from the Debian archive.
> [...]
> None of the software contained into ia32-libs are intended to be
> packaged this way.

There are only 2 ways of dealing with this: 

- fix multiarch blockers (binutils) and finish the implementation (not
  for lenny anymore, sorry)

- implement biarch like RedHat and SuSE did, putting all 64bit libs to
  /lib64 and 32bit libs to /lib, and patching dpkg et all to cope with
  this, allowing amd64 to install both amd64 and i386 packages (no way,
  sorry - 4 years too late for this)

But opening RC bugs pointing to the obvious mess doesn't help neither our 
users nor my blood pressure.

Regards
Frederik Schüler

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Bug#484599: ia32-libs contains several sources and break policy 4.13

2008-06-04 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: ia32-libs
Version: 2.5
Severity: serious

Hi,

ia32-libs contains several sources of software that are already packaged
and available from the Debian archive.

This is a clear breakage of point 2.13 of the Debian policy 3.8.0.0:

« Debian packages should not make use of these convenience copies unless
  the included package is explicitly intended to be used in this way. »

None of the software contained into ia32-libs are intended to be
packaged this way.

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