Bug#581393: Processed: reopen 581393

2010-05-13 Thread sergio

On 05/13/2010 07:21 AM, Bdale Garbee wrote:

Our difference of opinion is over whether showing the lecture every time
is a failure or just an expected behavior when choosing to use RAMRUN.

It can not be an expected behavior, because once means:
Only lecture the user the first time they run sudo., and not first 
time after reboot.



However, after re-reading the FHS sections on the various /var subdirs,
I now believe that /var/lib may be a better location for the state
information to reside in than /var/run.  I'll raise this question with
sudo upstream.

Thank you.

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Bug#581393: Processed: reopen 581393

2010-05-12 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Wed, 12 May 2010 23:21:13 +, ow...@bugs.debian.org (Debian Bug Tracking 
System) wrote:
  reopen 581393

You assert that there is a policy violation where there is none, and
I've already explained how you can achieve a trivial resolution of the
behavior that bothers you with the existing packages.

Re-opening this bug without providing some further explanation of what
you think sudo should do differently will generate no useful result.

Bdale


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Bug#581393: Processed: reopen 581393

2010-05-12 Thread sergio

On 05/13/2010 04:05 AM, Bdale Garbee wrote:


You assert that there is a policy violation where there is none, and
I've already explained how you can achieve a trivial resolution of the
behavior that bothers you with the existing packages.


In the Debian policy I see:
/var/run and /var/lock may be mounted as temporary filesystems[59], so 
the init.d scripts must handle this correctly.


... _must_ handle ...

And sudo doesn't handle this correctly. So it's policy violation.
Where I'm wrong?

MI'm not an expert in Debian policy. So if there is no policy violation 
change severity, but don't close the bug, it exists!


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Bug#581393: Processed: reopen 581393

2010-05-12 Thread Bdale Garbee
On Thu, 13 May 2010 04:28:27 +0400, sergio mail...@sergio.spb.ru wrote:
 On 05/13/2010 04:05 AM, Bdale Garbee wrote:
 
  You assert that there is a policy violation where there is none, and
  I've already explained how you can achieve a trivial resolution of the
  behavior that bothers you with the existing packages.
 
 In the Debian policy I see:
 /var/run and /var/lock may be mounted as temporary filesystems[59], so 
 the init.d scripts must handle this correctly.
 
 ... _must_ handle ...
 
 And sudo doesn't handle this correctly. So it's policy violation.
 Where I'm wrong?

Our difference of opinion is over whether showing the lecture every time
is a failure or just an expected behavior when choosing to use RAMRUN.

However, after re-reading the FHS sections on the various /var subdirs,
I now believe that /var/lib may be a better location for the state
information to reside in than /var/run.  I'll raise this question with
sudo upstream.

Bdale


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