Bug#590147: Upgrade

2012-06-15 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
severity 590147 important
thanks

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 11:50:08AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:28:31AM +0200, Modestas Vainius wrote:
   The two are from my point of view RC
  
  No, the first part is not RC because:
  
  1) it is rare enough
  2) there is no data loss involved
  
  There is no info about the 2nd part and according to upstream, the bug has 
  been there since etch (!!!) meaning two debian stable releases already have 
  it. However, the debian bug has only been reported recently. This tells a 
  lot 
  about commodity of this bug.
  
  You may argue as much as you want but probability of this getting fixed is 
  nearly 0% since it has not been fixed for many years and there is obvious 
  lack 
  of information. What is more, metakit has no future. Once akregrator is 
  rewriten based on akonadi, this will go away.
 
 I propose to downgrade this to non-RC severity. If it all, it's a rare
 corner-case.

Going ahead, since noone objected.
 
Cheers,
Moritz



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Bug#590147: Upgrade

2012-05-27 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:28:31AM +0200, Modestas Vainius wrote:
  The two are from my point of view RC
 
 No, the first part is not RC because:
 
 1) it is rare enough
 2) there is no data loss involved
 
 There is no info about the 2nd part and according to upstream, the bug has 
 been there since etch (!!!) meaning two debian stable releases already have 
 it. However, the debian bug has only been reported recently. This tells a lot 
 about commodity of this bug.
 
 You may argue as much as you want but probability of this getting fixed is 
 nearly 0% since it has not been fixed for many years and there is obvious 
 lack 
 of information. What is more, metakit has no future. Once akregrator is 
 rewriten based on akonadi, this will go away.

I propose to downgrade this to non-RC severity. If it all, it's a rare
corner-case.

Cheers,
Moritz



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Bug#590147: Upgrade

2010-11-29 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Modestas Vainius modes...@vainius.eu wrote:
 tags 590147 help
 thanks

 Hello,

 On antradienis 09 Lapkritis 2010 11:23:53 Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
  But now there are too many
 
 variables. To make things worse, akregator developement isn't very active
 upstream.

 I have not the skills to debug this bug, but  they are some file that
 coul allow youy to reproduce it at
 http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=48011

 All that stuff in bug report is useless because both this debian bug and
 upstream bug deal with consequences. When you see this crash and backtrace,
 the archive file had already been cut short and the data had already been
 lost. akregator is simply unable to read corrupt archive file on startup and
 rather than handling this condition gracefully, it crashes

Do you agree that solving the first part of the problem will be really
nice. Instead of alway crashing following a cosmics ray it will prompt
and fix the error.


. However, there is
 no information how and when akregator fails to write correct archive file or
 otherwise corrupts it.

I agree also with this part. But it is a second bug
Should I duplicate the bug ? The two are from my point of view RC

 So basically this bug is impossible to fix without a reliable way to reproduce
 it from the start to finish. During my 2 years of using akregator, I have
 never had this problem so there is not much I can do.


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Bug#590147: Upgrade

2010-11-29 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello,

On pirmadienis 29 Lapkritis 2010 10:21:13 Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
 . However, there is
 
  no information how and when akregator fails to write correct archive file
  or otherwise corrupts it.
 
 I agree also with this part. But it is a second bug
 Should I duplicate the bug ?

No.

 The two are from my point of view RC

No, the first part is not RC because:

1) it is rare enough
2) there is no data loss involved

There is no info about the 2nd part and according to upstream, the bug has 
been there since etch (!!!) meaning two debian stable releases already have 
it. However, the debian bug has only been reported recently. This tells a lot 
about commodity of this bug.

You may argue as much as you want but probability of this getting fixed is 
nearly 0% since it has not been fixed for many years and there is obvious lack 
of information. What is more, metakit has no future. Once akregrator is 
rewriten based on akonadi, this will go away.

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Bug#590147: Upgrade

2010-11-28 Thread Modestas Vainius
tags 590147 help
thanks

Hello,

On antradienis 09 Lapkritis 2010 11:23:53 Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
  But now there are too many
 
 variables. To make things worse, akregator developement isn't very active
 upstream.
 
 I have not the skills to debug this bug, but  they are some file that
 coul allow youy to reproduce it at
 http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=48011

All that stuff in bug report is useless because both this debian bug and 
upstream bug deal with consequences. When you see this crash and backtrace, 
the archive file had already been cut short and the data had already been 
lost. akregator is simply unable to read corrupt archive file on startup and 
rather than handling this condition gracefully, it crashes. However, there is 
no information how and when akregator fails to write correct archive file or 
otherwise corrupts it. 

So basically this bug is impossible to fix without a reliable way to reproduce 
it from the start to finish. During my 2 years of using akregator, I have 
never had this problem so there is not much I can do.

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Bug#590147: Upgrade

2010-11-09 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
 No this bug occurs after an upgrade.

Upgrade from what version?

upgrade to 1.6.5

 I could start agregator after
 deleting all my archive... So crash each time or loss all archive.

This supports my assumption that the problem is cache corruption.

No it is an archive problem. Not a cahce problem. Cache could be
purged (cahce does not have valuable data). Archive have valuable data
and could not be purged without data loss

 It is for me release critical ask to kde teams but for me it is release
 critical.

If I could reproduce it, I would agree it's RC.
Why ? I loss my archive. Some are now closed blog that I like to read
? I loss my data = RC by default

When cache is corrupte I could not start it again... I need toi
manually remove archive or do some manual and boring workarround see
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116482#c205

 But now there are too many
variables. To make things worse, akregator developement isn't very active
upstream.

I have not the skills to debug this bug, but  they are some file that
coul allow youy to reproduce it at
http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=48011

Bastien



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