Processed: Re: Bug#597635: plasma-widgets-workspace: Device notifier configuration dialog freezes desktop

2010-09-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> severity 597635 normal
Bug #597635 [plasma-widgets-workspace] plasma-widgets-workspace: Device 
notifier configuration dialog freezes desktop
Severity set to 'normal' from 'critical'

> retitle 597635 Device notifier configuration dialog should be modaless
Bug #597635 [plasma-widgets-workspace] plasma-widgets-workspace: Device 
notifier configuration dialog freezes desktop
Changed Bug title to 'Device notifier configuration dialog should be modaless' 
from 'plasma-widgets-workspace: Device notifier configuration dialog freezes 
desktop'
> thanks
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Bug#597635: plasma-widgets-workspace: Device notifier configuration dialog freezes desktop

2010-09-21 Thread Modestas Vainius
severity 597635 normal
retitle 597635 Device notifier configuration dialog should be modaless
thanks

Hello,

On antradienis 21 Rugsėjis 2010 18:26:00 Braun Gábor wrote:
> Package: plasma-widgets-workspace
> Version: 4:4.4.5-3
> Severity: critical
> Justification: breaks the whole system
> 
> 
> 1) I right-click on the device notifier icon on the panel
> and select "Beállítások" (Settings) from the menu.
> 2) I select the second icon from the top in the left pane:
> "Eszközműveletek" (Actions)
> 3) Now in the right, I see actions like
> "Megnyitás a fájlkezelővel" (open with file manager).
> I select an action and click on the middle button "Szerkesztés"
> (Edit) below.

Yes, so a new dialog opens which is modal. By definition, a modal dialog 
absorbs all input from the other dialogs or GUI widgets which the same 
application has opened. Unfortunately, in this case, the app opening this 
modal dialog is a main KDE plasma shell (plasma-desktop) so the dialog blocks 
it, i.e. your whole desktop.

> At this point, the desktop darkens and the items on the desktop
> (panels, widgets on the desktop etc) become unresponsive.
> No switching to minimized window, no logout, KDE menu unavailable.
> Only the window manager actions remain: eg moving/resizing windows,
> using the icons on windows, switching to another displayed window.

Yes, the only unresponsive application is plasma-desktop. Too bad it happens 
to manage the whole KDE desktop.

> A new dialog appears where one can edit the actions.
> By closing the dialog, the desktop returns to normal color and
> the widgets are responsive again.

Yes, that's what happens when modal dialog is closed. The parent application 
starts reacting to input events as usual.

> But if I minimize the dialog window, I don't see any way to return,
> so I am stuck with a hardly usable desktop.

It is not true. You can use Alt+Tab. Alt+Tab is served by window manager.

> In my opinion, making the desktop widgets unresponsive
> is a critical bug because they are essential for using the system
> (starting applications, logging out, switching between applications
> etc).

I would like to stress one thing here -> you willingly minimized the dialog 
when the rest of the desktop was darkened. So you as a user did a mistake but  
you still have a way out of it (Alt+Tab). Therefore, this bug is by no way 
critical as it does not affect anywhere majority of users nor it's 
consequences are severe. Actually, it is a usability issue so it is merely of  
normal severity. Generally, I would call it minor but I agree that your 
arguments against modal dialogs hold in this case. Users may run into such 
corner cases by accident.

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Bug#597635: plasma-widgets-workspace: Device notifier configuration dialog freezes desktop

2010-09-21 Thread Braun Gábor
Package: plasma-widgets-workspace
Version: 4:4.4.5-3
Severity: critical
Justification: breaks the whole system


1) I right-click on the device notifier icon on the panel
and select "Beállítások" (Settings) from the menu.
2) I select the second icon from the top in the left pane:
"Eszközműveletek" (Actions)
3) Now in the right, I see actions like
"Megnyitás a fájlkezelővel" (open with file manager).
I select an action and click on the middle button "Szerkesztés"
(Edit) below.

At this point, the desktop darkens and the items on the desktop
(panels, widgets on the desktop etc) become unresponsive.
No switching to minimized window, no logout, KDE menu unavailable.
Only the window manager actions remain: eg moving/resizing windows,
using the icons on windows, switching to another displayed window.

A new dialog appears where one can edit the actions.
By closing the dialog, the desktop returns to normal color and
the widgets are responsive again.
But if I minimize the dialog window, I don't see any way to return,
so I am stuck with a hardly usable desktop.

In my opinion, making the desktop widgets unresponsive
is a critical bug because they are essential for using the system
(starting applications, logging out, switching between applications 
etc).

Best wishes,

Gábor Braun

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.6
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (990, 'stable'), (650, 'testing'), (600, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=hu_HU.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=hu_HU.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages plasma-widgets-workspace depends on:
ii  kdebase-runtime 4:4.4.5-1runtime components from the offici
ii  libc6   2.11.2-5 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libkdecore5 4:4.4.5-1the KDE Platform Core Library
ii  libkdeui5   4:4.4.5-1the KDE Platform User Interface Li
ii  libkio5 4:4.4.5-1the Network-enabled File Managemen
ii  libkunitconversion4 4:4.4.5-1the Unit Conversion library for th
ii  libkutils4  4:4.4.5-1various utility classes for the KD
ii  libkworkspace4  4:4.4.5-3library for the kdebase workspace
ii  libplasma3  4:4.4.5-1the Plasma Library for the KDE Pla
ii  libplasmaclock4a4:4.4.5-3library for Plasma clocks
ii  libqt4-dbus 4:4.6.3-1+b1 Qt 4 D-Bus module
ii  libqt4-webkit   4:4.6.3-1+b1 Qt 4 WebKit module
ii  libqt4-xml  4:4.6.3-1+b1 Qt 4 XML module
ii  libqtcore4  4:4.6.3-1+b1 Qt 4 core module
ii  libqtgui4   4:4.6.3-1+b1 Qt 4 GUI module
ii  libsolid4   4:4.4.5-1Solid Library for KDE Platform
ii  libsolidcontrol44:4.4.5-3library for Solid based network ma
ii  libstdc++6  4.4.4-8  The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
ii  libx11-62:1.3.3-3X11 client-side library
ii  libxcomposite1  1:0.4.0-3X11 Composite extension library
ii  libxdamage1 1:1.1.1-4X11 damaged region extension libra
ii  libxfixes3  1:4.0.3-2X11 miscellaneous 'fixes' extensio
ii  libxrender1 1:0.9.4-2X Rendering Extension client libra
ii  libxss1 1:1.1.3-1X11 Screen Saver extension library
ii  plasma-dataengines-workspac 4:4.4.5-3KDE Plasma data engines

plasma-widgets-workspace recommends no packages.

plasma-widgets-workspace suggests no packages.

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