Bug#598639: [RC: #598639] foomatic-gui/printconf: Not working in modern CUPS environments
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 08:30:30AM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Le mardi, 9 août 2011 22.42:39, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit : > > Chris, almost a year has passed. Do you agree with removal from > > unstable or what's your plan for foomatic-gui? > > It's been one more year-and-a-half without any action, upload, or handling of > the bugs of foomatic-gui, which hasn't entered testing for almost 500 days > and > hasn't been in the two past stable releases. In particular, there was no > especially not on this one claiming that foomatic-gui doesn't work in modern > CUPS environment. > > Also, printconf asks the user to send autodetect information to foomatic- > d...@packages.qa.debian.org and we don't do anything with this information, > so > if we can't agree to removing foomatic-gui (but I think enough time was given > to the maintainer), I intend to NMU it to make that hint point to foomatic- > g...@packages.qa.debian.org instead. I've just filed a removal bug against ftp.debian.org Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#598639: [RC: #598639] foomatic-gui/printconf: Not working in modern CUPS environments
Hi Chris, Le mardi, 9 août 2011 22.42:39, Moritz Muehlenhoff a écrit : > Chris, almost a year has passed. Do you agree with removal from > unstable or what's your plan for foomatic-gui? It's been one more year-and-a-half without any action, upload, or handling of the bugs of foomatic-gui, which hasn't entered testing for almost 500 days and hasn't been in the two past stable releases. In particular, there was no especially not on this one claiming that foomatic-gui doesn't work in modern CUPS environment. Also, printconf asks the user to send autodetect information to foomatic- d...@packages.qa.debian.org and we don't do anything with this information, so if we can't agree to removing foomatic-gui (but I think enough time was given to the maintainer), I intend to NMU it to make that hint point to foomatic- g...@packages.qa.debian.org instead. Cheers, Didier P.S. CC'ing MIA. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Bug#598639: [RC: #598639] foomatic-gui/printconf: Not working in modern CUPS environments
On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 02:01:30PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le Thursday 30 September 2010 19:39:18 Till Kamppeter, vous avez écrit : > > Package: foomatic-gui > > Version: 0.7.9.3 > > Severity: serious > > > > The printer setup tools provided by the foomatic-gui source package, > > printconf and foomatic-gui are not usable any more in modern CUPS > > environments. > > > > (…) [See bug log.] > > > > Possible fixes are: > > > > 1. (A lot of work and re-inventing the wheel) Fix the software to poll > > the PPD/driver info and the PPDs itself from CUPS when CUPS is in use. > > > > 2. Let foomatic-gui and printconf conflict with the "cups" package, so > > that they do not get installed on systems where the printing environment > > is CUPS. > > > > 3. Remove the foomatic-gui package from Debian altogether (recommended > > if upstream development has been discontinued). > > > > Recommended replacement for CUPS users is system-config-printer. > > > > Till > > Hi dear Release Team, > > as discussed over IRC and at the Bern BSP, I propose to remove the > foomatic-gui > source package altogether from Squeeze (at least), for the following reasons: > > * Doesn't work with CUPS (the most used printing system), see this bug log, > * Is basically not maintained, see the bugs reported on it, and their ages. > > This would have the following consequences: > * many users without upgrade path (see the popcon numbers) but the > functionality > is available in other packages, spread in various desktop tools, > * a bug on tasksel, (printconf is in desktop and print-server) > * a bug on brdesktop-common, which recommends printconf. > > As further argueing, the first proposed solution is probably not doable at > that > point in freeze and the second solution proposed (conflict against cups) > would > not help much, as tasks should be updated anyway. > > As for the future, as this is a native package, it has to get updated by his > upstream maintainer to be useful, and I don't see the Printing Team taking > over > that task. > > Release Team; what do you think ? Chris, almost a year has passed. Do you agree with removal from unstable or what's your plan for foomatic-gui? Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#598639: [RC: #598639] foomatic-gui/printconf: Not working in modern CUPS environments
On 11/27/2010 02:01 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > as discussed over IRC and at the Bern BSP, I propose to remove the > foomatic-gui source package altogether from Squeeze (at least), for > the following reasons: > > * Doesn't work with CUPS (the most used printing system), see this > bug log, * Is basically not maintained, see the bugs reported on it, > and their ages. > I've added a removal hint for it. > * a bug on tasksel, (printconf is in desktop and print-server) A fix will be comitted in tasksel's Git repository (and an upload will follow). > * a bug on brdesktop-common, which recommends printconf. > Julien reported #605595 earlier today... I'll followup there about foomatic-gui. Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bug#598639: [RC: #598639] foomatic-gui/printconf: Not working in modern CUPS environments
Le Thursday 30 September 2010 19:39:18 Till Kamppeter, vous avez écrit : > Package: foomatic-gui > Version: 0.7.9.3 > Severity: serious > > The printer setup tools provided by the foomatic-gui source package, > printconf and foomatic-gui are not usable any more in modern CUPS > environments. > > (…) [See bug log.] > > Possible fixes are: > > 1. (A lot of work and re-inventing the wheel) Fix the software to poll > the PPD/driver info and the PPDs itself from CUPS when CUPS is in use. > > 2. Let foomatic-gui and printconf conflict with the "cups" package, so > that they do not get installed on systems where the printing environment > is CUPS. > > 3. Remove the foomatic-gui package from Debian altogether (recommended > if upstream development has been discontinued). > > Recommended replacement for CUPS users is system-config-printer. > > Till Hi dear Release Team, as discussed over IRC and at the Bern BSP, I propose to remove the foomatic-gui source package altogether from Squeeze (at least), for the following reasons: * Doesn't work with CUPS (the most used printing system), see this bug log, * Is basically not maintained, see the bugs reported on it, and their ages. This would have the following consequences: * many users without upgrade path (see the popcon numbers) but the functionality is available in other packages, spread in various desktop tools, * a bug on tasksel, (printconf is in desktop and print-server) * a bug on brdesktop-common, which recommends printconf. As further argueing, the first proposed solution is probably not doable at that point in freeze and the second solution proposed (conflict against cups) would not help much, as tasks should be updated anyway. As for the future, as this is a native package, it has to get updated by his upstream maintainer to be useful, and I don't see the Printing Team taking over that task. Release Team; what do you think ? Cheers, OdyX -- Didier Raboud, proud Debian Maintainer (DM). CH-1020 Renens did...@raboud.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
