Bug#630280: Processed: severity of 630305 is serious, severity of 630280 is serious, severity of 630265 is serious

2011-08-01 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Laurent,
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:25:56PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
 Le Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:32:06 +0200,
 Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de a écrit :
 
  Hello Laurent,
 
 Hello,
 
  Is there anything you want me/need me to do? Then please instead of
  fiddeling with closed bugs send those information to me.
 
 Well the bug is not closed in unstable and testing yet :)

Fine with me, but a mail like this would have been much clearer :-))

  For the record: goobox is ready to be uploaded with inotify 0.7
  support *iff* 629566 is resolved, i.e. libbrasero-media3-dev is
  uploaded to unstable. Unfortunately the maintainer of
  libbrasero-media3-dev seems inactive, i.e. has not responded for
  almost 2 month regarding his timeframe. 
  
  Until then the version in experimental has to suffice, unfortunately.
 
 Well that pretty annoying. Do you think you could create a patch to fix
 this in the unstable version? The API has minimal changes and that
 shouldn't be to complicated. Otherwise the release will remove it from
 testing to allow the transition of libnotify.

I'd rather fix this in one step. Do you know any reason why 629566
can't be resolved? Unfortunately they (you? see below) do not respond
to the bug report, and currently I cannot mail them directly (582765).

Of course I could see if I could do an upload just fixing your
transition, but it's not like I'm bored and do not have anything else
to do. And if I knew a reason/timeframe for the libbrasero-media3-dev
upload, then I could of course adjust. But I would not be very happy
to do the extra work for an upload fixing the libnotify transition
alone just to find out two days later that libbrasero-media3-dev was
uploaded. And especially given that both libnotify *and* 
libbrasero-media3-dev have the same maintainer I find it somewhat
strange that the intermix (which I denoted by the proper blocks in the
BTS) cannot be resolved! (And not even a simple ack to my bug report
almost 2 month ago is possible).

And removing goobox from unstable would punish the wrong guy/would be
quite discouraging. I uploaded to experimental the same day you
reported the transition (btw. without a set timeframe), i.e. it's not
like I'm not responsive. I even talked with my previous sponsor about
this bug before I went on vacation some weeks ago, in case something
was happening with 629566.

I hope you can talk to your team and check about
libbrasero-media3-dev. Depending on the day of the week I can quickly
do the upload if necessary.

Greetings

Helge
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Bug#630280: Processed: severity of 630305 is serious, severity of 630280 is serious, severity of 630265 is serious

2011-08-01 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:22:45 +0200,
Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de a écrit :

 Hello Laurent,

Hi,

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:25:56PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:

  Well that pretty annoying. Do you think you could create a patch to
  fix this in the unstable version? The API has minimal changes and
  that shouldn't be to complicated. Otherwise the release will remove
  it from testing to allow the transition of libnotify.
 
 I'd rather fix this in one step. Do you know any reason why 629566
 can't be resolved? Unfortunately they (you? see below) do not respond
 to the bug report, and currently I cannot mail them directly (582765).
 

Well uploading brasero 3 requires other packages to be uploaded in
unstable first (mainly nautilus) and would requires all packages using
libbrasero-media to be updated to gtk3. So that's not that easy.

 Of course I could see if I could do an upload just fixing your
 transition, but it's not like I'm bored and do not have anything else
 to do. And if I knew a reason/timeframe for the libbrasero-media3-dev
 upload, then I could of course adjust. But I would not be very happy
 to do the extra work for an upload fixing the libnotify transition
 alone just to find out two days later that libbrasero-media3-dev was
 uploaded. And especially given that both libnotify *and* 
 libbrasero-media3-dev have the same maintainer I find it somewhat
 strange that the intermix (which I denoted by the proper blocks in the
 BTS) cannot be resolved! (And not even a simple ack to my bug report
 almost 2 month ago is possible).

That's the game of the soname transition, the release team try to make
a transition at a time, to avoid to much contention..

And as said, brasero 3 requires a lot of new libraries from GNOME3 and
some of them also require transitions that's why the upload of GNOME 3
in unstable is slow.

 And removing goobox from unstable would punish the wrong guy/would be
 quite discouraging. I uploaded to experimental the same day you
 reported the transition (btw. without a set timeframe), i.e. it's not
 like I'm not responsive. I even talked with my previous sponsor about
 this bug before I went on vacation some weeks ago, in case something
 was happening with 629566.

Well the the removal of a package from testing is in release team
hands, so I cannot speak for them, but the best to ensure that the
package stay in testing is to patch it to use the new API of libnotify.

If you need help for the patch feel free to ask on the #debian-gnome on
OTFC irc network, or I'll see if I can have a look at it.

Regards

Laurent Bigonville



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Bug#630280: Processed: severity of 630305 is serious, severity of 630280 is serious, severity of 630265 is serious

2011-08-01 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Laurent,
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 08:34:11PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
 Le Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:22:45 +0200,
 Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de a écrit :
  On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 09:25:56PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
 
   Well that pretty annoying. Do you think you could create a patch to
   fix this in the unstable version? The API has minimal changes and
   that shouldn't be to complicated. Otherwise the release will remove
   it from testing to allow the transition of libnotify.
  
  I'd rather fix this in one step. Do you know any reason why 629566
  can't be resolved? Unfortunately they (you? see below) do not respond
  to the bug report, and currently I cannot mail them directly (582765).
  
 
 Well uploading brasero 3 requires other packages to be uploaded in
 unstable first (mainly nautilus) and would requires all packages using
 libbrasero-media to be updated to gtk3. So that's not that easy.

Ok, this makes sense. So from this I gather that this upload is some
time off. 

 
  Of course I could see if I could do an upload just fixing your
  transition, but it's not like I'm bored and do not have anything else
  to do. And if I knew a reason/timeframe for the libbrasero-media3-dev
  upload, then I could of course adjust. But I would not be very happy
  to do the extra work for an upload fixing the libnotify transition
  alone just to find out two days later that libbrasero-media3-dev was
  uploaded. And especially given that both libnotify *and* 
  libbrasero-media3-dev have the same maintainer I find it somewhat
  strange that the intermix (which I denoted by the proper blocks in the
  BTS) cannot be resolved! (And not even a simple ack to my bug report
  almost 2 month ago is possible).
 
 That's the game of the soname transition, the release team try to make
 a transition at a time, to avoid to much contention..

No problem, but somehow dependencies do exist when upstream upgrades
all dependencies (ports to modern libraries). 

 And as said, brasero 3 requires a lot of new libraries from GNOME3 and
 some of them also require transitions that's why the upload of GNOME 3
 in unstable is slow.

Ok. 

  And removing goobox from unstable would punish the wrong guy/would be
  quite discouraging. I uploaded to experimental the same day you
  reported the transition (btw. without a set timeframe), i.e. it's not
  like I'm not responsive. I even talked with my previous sponsor about
  this bug before I went on vacation some weeks ago, in case something
  was happening with 629566.
 
 Well the the removal of a package from testing is in release team
 hands, so I cannot speak for them, but the best to ensure that the
 package stay in testing is to patch it to use the new API of libnotify.

I understand. Given the information you just provided I'll see if I
can decouple the transitions in goobox as well, as less as I like it,
though. My wish for next time would be to responde to bugs/e-mails
with text much sooner, this avoids confusion and speeds things up
(goobox would probably be in Testing already). Especially when a
lonley bug asks for an upload.

 If you need help for the patch feel free to ask on the #debian-gnome on
 OTFC irc network, or I'll see if I can have a look at it.

I'll see how far I get myself. I vaguely remember seeing a simple
patch in the git repository before the upstream tarball was created,
so I might grab that one. 

Tonight I'll probably do not manage to check it out and tomorrow I'll
be probably offline. So probabyl on Wednesday I'll see if I can
prepare a new version. To be on the safe side, would an upload at the
latest on the weekend be soon enough? (I'll probably would like to
check out the resulted binary before upload, given that I do not use
the new upstream version).

Thanks!

Greetings

Helge
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Bug#630280: Processed: severity of 630305 is serious, severity of 630280 is serious, severity of 630265 is serious

2011-07-31 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Laurent,
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 05:06:11PM +, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote:
 Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
 
  severity 630280 serious
 Bug #630280 {Done: Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de} [src:goobox] 
 goobox: Please transition to libnotify 0.7
 Severity set to 'serious' from 'important'

 Please contact me if you need assistance.

Is there anything you want me/need me to do? Then please instead of
fiddeling with closed bugs send those information to me.

For the record: goobox is ready to be uploaded with inotify 0.7
support *iff* 629566 is resolved, i.e. libbrasero-media3-dev is
uploaded to unstable. Unfortunately the maintainer of
libbrasero-media3-dev seems inactive, i.e. has not responded for
almost 2 month regarding his timeframe. 

Until then the version in experimental has to suffice, unfortunately.

Greetings

 Helge
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