Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-13 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Now see if you had contacted the maintainer prior to performing the NMU 
upload you would have found out that your information was in fact 
flawed. BTS #690080 was to inform of the new upstream maintainer only a 
month ago and I've been in contact privately. Furthermore 1.9 was only 
released within the last week by said new upstream maintainer. That my 
friend is why you contact the maintainer and find out if assistance is 
in fact needed or else you're just mucking shit up and pissing the 
maintainer off considerably.


On 12.11.2012 22:17, Michael Gilbert wrote:

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
Not my problem... You put the burden on me, I'm giving you the 
burden since
you obviously took the time failing to contact me to ask and 
ascertain
whether the maintainer might actually be in the process of doing 
anything

with the package.


I read the bug traffic, and the latest maintainer activity was four
months ago.  That's usually a strong indicator that the package needs
help.

The RC issues were introduced by a previous NMU, the issues are 
resolved in
the new upstream release so as far as I'm concerned their wont-fix 
issues

in this version.


I understand that this was introduced by the prior nmu, and that's 
why

this nmu is reverting that broken one.


But as I'm turning the package over to you, do what you like.


You may as well orphan it so it can get cared for either by the QA
team or someone who really cares about it.

Best wishes,
Mike



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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
Hi, I've uploaded an nmu fixing this issue to delayed/8.  The extra
time is to give you a chance to do a maintainer upload taking into
account your stated dislike for nmus.  Please see attached patch.

Best wishes,
Mike


paramiko.patch
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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse  wrote:
 Typically one would contact the maintainer before doing an NMU which you
 failed to do.

Quite the contrary.  The message you just replied to is my contact
prior to the nmu.  It has not happened yet.  It is currently in a kind
of limbo land called deferred.  Importantly, you have the power to
review it there and cancel it if you don't like it:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/en/man1/dcut.1.html

 If you had you would have been informed that I'm waiting on
 the new upstream maintainer to make the release merging paramiko and it's
 fork that would fix most of the issues with the current code base the
 patches introduced by the last NMU improperly fixed and caused regressions.

Thanks for the info.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Typically one would contact the maintainer before doing an NMU which 
you failed to do. If you had you would have been informed that I'm 
waiting on the new upstream maintainer to make the release merging 
paramiko and it's fork that would fix most of the issues with the 
current code base the patches introduced by the last NMU improperly 
fixed and caused regressions.


On 12.11.2012 18:21, Michael Gilbert wrote:

Hi, I've uploaded an nmu fixing this issue to delayed/8.  The extra
time is to give you a chance to do a maintainer upload taking into
account your stated dislike for nmus.  Please see attached patch.

Best wishes,
Mike



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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
 Thank you for volunteering to become the new paramiko package maintainer
 since you have so much spare time.

I did this nmu to try to help make progress against the huge list of
rc issues we have in many packages.  I'm not that interested in this
one so much.

 I'll be updating the debian/control file with the 1.9.0 upstream release as
 soon as I've completed it.

The release team will probably not accept new upstream versions at
this point in the freeze.

 Since you've put a gun to my head with the 8 day delay hopefully I'll get
 all the bugs worked out of it before I upload it and let you take over.

That delay wasn't meant to be pressuring.  It was just a choice that
seemed kind of long.  Please feel free to go ahead and cancel it if
you need more time.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Thank you for volunteering to become the new paramiko package 
maintainer since you have so much spare time. I'll be updating the 
debian/control file with the 1.9.0 upstream release as soon as I've 
completed it. Since you've put a gun to my head with the 8 day delay 
hopefully I'll get all the bugs worked out of it before I upload it and 
let you take over.


On 12.11.2012 21:18, Michael Gilbert wrote:

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse  wrote:
Typically one would contact the maintainer before doing an NMU which 
you

failed to do.


Quite the contrary.  The message you just replied to is my contact
prior to the nmu.  It has not happened yet.  It is currently in a 
kind

of limbo land called deferred.  Importantly, you have the power to
review it there and cancel it if you don't like it:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/en/man1/dcut.1.html


If you had you would have been informed that I'm waiting on
the new upstream maintainer to make the release merging paramiko and 
it's
fork that would fix most of the issues with the current code base 
the
patches introduced by the last NMU improperly fixed and caused 
regressions.


Thanks for the info.

Best wishes,
Mike



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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Jeremy T. Bouse
Not my problem... You put the burden on me, I'm giving you the burden 
since you obviously took the time failing to contact me to ask and 
ascertain whether the maintainer might actually be in the process of 
doing anything with the package.


The RC issues were introduced by a previous NMU, the issues are 
resolved in the new upstream release so as far as I'm concerned their 
wont-fix issues in this version. But as I'm turning the package over 
to you, do what you like.


On 12.11.2012 21:43, Michael Gilbert wrote:

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
Thank you for volunteering to become the new paramiko package 
maintainer

since you have so much spare time.


I did this nmu to try to help make progress against the huge list of
rc issues we have in many packages.  I'm not that interested in this
one so much.

I'll be updating the debian/control file with the 1.9.0 upstream 
release as

soon as I've completed it.


The release team will probably not accept new upstream versions at
this point in the freeze.

Since you've put a gun to my head with the 8 day delay hopefully 
I'll get
all the bugs worked out of it before I upload it and let you take 
over.


That delay wasn't meant to be pressuring.  It was just a choice that
seemed kind of long.  Please feel free to go ahead and cancel it if
you need more time.

Best wishes,
Mike



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Bug#682050: nmu

2012-11-12 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
 Not my problem... You put the burden on me, I'm giving you the burden since
 you obviously took the time failing to contact me to ask and ascertain
 whether the maintainer might actually be in the process of doing anything
 with the package.

I read the bug traffic, and the latest maintainer activity was four
months ago.  That's usually a strong indicator that the package needs
help.

 The RC issues were introduced by a previous NMU, the issues are resolved in
 the new upstream release so as far as I'm concerned their wont-fix issues
 in this version.

I understand that this was introduced by the prior nmu, and that's why
this nmu is reverting that broken one.

 But as I'm turning the package over to you, do what you like.

You may as well orphan it so it can get cared for either by the QA
team or someone who really cares about it.

Best wishes,
Mike


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